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Old 09-03-2005, 02:41 PM   #76
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I thought I'd put in my '2 pennies worth' I'm sitting here in Scotland appalled by the lack of help these poor people in New Orleans appear to be getting.

From my perspective the majority are black, fact of life. There are two things which I cannot understand:

Why, when they knew the hurricane was going to hit New Orleans the authorities didn't do more to help people get out.......which they're doing now.

Why they are spending so much resource on stopping 'looting', a means to survive as I see it, rather than helping the people more positively.

I'm not saying things would be handled better here if the situation arose but hell your authorities, with so much money and forewarning, should be ashamed.
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I thought I'd put in my '2 pennies worth' I'm sitting here in Scotland appalled by the lack of help these poor people in New Orleans appear to be getting.

From my perspective the majority are black, fact of life. There are two things which I cannot understand:

Why, when they knew the hurricane was going to hit New Orleans the authorities didn't do more to help people get out.......which they're doing now.

Why they are spending so much resource on stopping 'looting',


Bush and Rove were speaking to their base.

the people who voted for bush are more likely to worry about crime

than people who are too poor to own a car

here is the early response for the President's base

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US President George W. Bush vowed "zero tolerance" for looters and other profiteers from the devastation left by Hurricane Katrina and said he would send in more troops if necessary.

perhaps,

one can start to understand Kayne's concern
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"And just to imagine if I was down there, those are my people down there. So anybody out there who wants to help with the set up, the way that America is set up to help … The poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean, Red Cross is doing everything they can.

"We already realize a lot of the people that could help are at war now fighting another way and they’ve given them permission to go down and shoot us."
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the cards that are played by the administration

as dictated by rove, the soulless scumbag,
to manage marginal election victories


yes.

whatever gains might have been made by the reuplicans amongst african-americans in 2004 has been washed away, so to speak.

the water has receeded to reveal the grotesque, racialized line between the haves and the have-nots in america.

by saying it has nothing to do with race is merely making those who have feel better than those who have-not, who know that while it's not race, itself, it is that access to good housing, safe streets, good schools, often has much to do with one's race.

these divisions are "raced" -- and this is much to do with the weight of history.

which has EVERYTHING to do with race in this country, especially in the South.

but, hey, if calling something "playing the race card" assuages your guilt, by all means bash those who's words make you uncomfortable.
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Hear hear, Irvine.
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:16 PM   #80
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I'm glad that my assumption many moons ago that Jamila is a nut job is being realised to an extent.

I think that we've all had our say on that matter now, lets leave it atleast until she comes back to spout off.
This is way out of line.

Way way out of line......

For this forum.....
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:36 PM   #81
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I agree

and would add the following to all that pounced after her one reply

most of us
have made one reply or another

that may not have articulated our thoughts clearly
or were just not popularly received

so what,

i am probably guilty of being on both sides of this issue

but, I am trying harder not to pile on
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add to that typed out of haste and ignorance...
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:45 PM   #83
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Yeah, this seemed like a vendetta or something

I have only respect for Jamila´s well-articulated posts.

take it easy evryone.
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Yeah, this seemed like a vendetta or something

I have only respect for Jamila´s well-articulated posts.

take it easy evryone.
I'll second this. My bit about the poor thing was only in response to others sharing their stories. 'Twas not an attack on you, Jamila .

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nice work kanye.



seriously.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:05 PM   #86
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sheesh. Are we still picking on Jamila?

I knew this thing would be deemed a race issue.
If San Francisco finally gets the "big one" and cracks in two Im sure we're going to be saying they arent getting help because of all the gays
What if it was a primarily white area? I think it would be getting the same amount of help honestly.

The city sounds fecked to me. They should just get the people out and bury the place. its going to cost so much to rebuild it they might as well just build it somewhere thats not filled with sewage
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I am still looking for the truth in what he said.

Not one soldier has shot anyone to my knowledge...

Yet...I have heard of a soldier who was shot with his own weapong trying to stop it from being stolen.

Has the operation been run correctly...Even Bush says NO! The President says we are not doing enough.

I am stunned that people take Kanye seriously.
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I am still looking for the truth in what he said.

Not one soldier has shot anyone to my knowledge...

Yet...I have heard of a soldier who was shot with his own weapong trying to stop it from being stolen.

Has the operation been run correctly...Even Bush says NO! The President says we are not doing enough.

I am stunned that people take Kanye seriously.

never said anyone was shot

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they’ve given them permission to go down and shoot us."

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it may depend how you look

and what you want to find
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I'm hoping Jamila's comments were just the result of stress or a bad day or something because the posts I read from her in this thread are the last thing I would have ever expected from her.
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as i said

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or were just not popularly received

so what
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