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Old 06-20-2003, 12:19 AM   #46
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Well as much as you dislike Klein he is by far the best priemer in the country. He has turned Alberta into the richest terrortory in North America and stands by his feelings. I only hope more premier do the same. Simple as that.
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Eh...I'm not in the mood to argue.

It's still just Alberta; give me Ontario or BC anyday. And still expect a court challenge.

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Well as much as you dislike Klein he is by far the best priemer in the country.
Oh my God. I can't even say anything else. If that's the best we've got, heaven help us.

When his competition are the likes of Ernie Eves and Mike Harris, is it any wonder?

I'll also take Ontario or BC any day.
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Holy crap melon! That is exciting!! What a great way to start the new century! Wow. I'm so happy that the ball is finally rolling toward progress and equality and equal opportunity and access.


Someday our country will realise that the legal union of two people who love each other and commit to each other is no threat to anyone.
Exactly.

I'm glad that Canada's gonna do that. Smart move on their part.

As for the guy who won't allow them in Alberta, on the other hand...time to get out of your little time warp, pal.

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Old 06-21-2003, 01:29 AM   #50
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According to very recent polls, over 50% of Canadians favoured gay marriage in Canada anyway. I say, it's nice that Cretien listened to his country's people on this one.
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Old 06-23-2003, 01:16 PM   #51
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Iam a little old fashion. Two gentlemen lying together makes me a bit nervous.
It doesnt matter if they're Canadian gentlemen.
I have no problem with Canadians.

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Old 06-23-2003, 01:25 PM   #52
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Iam a little old fashion. Two gentlemen lying together makes me a bit nervous.
It doesnt matter if they're Canadian gentlemen.
I have no problem with Canadians.

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Yet two women would probably turn you on. Bit of a double standard don't you think? This isn't aimed just to you Atticus, I know many a straight men who are extremely homophobic with two men, but are turned on by two women.
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This really isn't an issue of what turns us on or off. It's not about heterosexual/homosexual drives and turnoffs so much as it is about people who are in love or who simply want to get married but are refused the right of marriage - a right which is given to heterosexual couples strictly on the basis of being born a certain way, something which has always been this way and has now entered the realm of dogma.

Because this is an equality issue, and I live in a democratic country (that supposedly listens to the wishes of its people), and because this country supports this legislation, I suppose it is by virtue of being a citizen of this country that I'm involved in this issue - but that's where it ends. The fact that the idea of sleeping with men does not turn me on, specifically, really has ZERO to do with the crux of this issue, and should be respected accordingly.
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Excellent point, Michael.

And good for the couple who married.
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Hey, thanks PopAngel...just thought it needed to be spelled out...*again*, lol.
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This really isn't an issue of what turns us on or off. It's not about heterosexual/homosexual drives and turnoffs so much as it is about people who are in love or who simply want to get married but are refused the right of marriage - a right which is given to heterosexual couples strictly on the basis of being born a certain way, something which has always been this way and has now entered the realm of dogma.

Because this is an equality issue, and I live in a democratic country (that supposedly listens to the wishes of its people), and because this country supports this legislation, I suppose it is by virtue of being a citizen of this country that I'm involved in this issue - but that's where it ends. The fact that the idea of sleeping with men does not turn me on, specifically, really has ZERO to do with the crux of this issue, and should be respected accordingly.
I agree, but wanted to point out the double standard that a lot of this society has. Why it would make one nervous is beyond me and why someone feels they have the right to outlaw others right to marry sickens me.
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I confess.
The 2 women lying together I guess I can find an degree of toleration.
They dont even have to be Canadian.

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Why is that everyone here says they have the right to marry but it seems that i or other people dont have the right to disagree. I dont think its natural. Thats my opinion. You think it is natural. We disagree. But the only man that made this decsion is Jean (even though it had to be voted on, his word carries alot of power.) I would love to see a national vote on this issue.

And to say a recent poll said 50% of people supported it i would like to see the territorial differences of that poll. For example, Alberta is much more conservative then say Quebec. That it is my right and the right of Alberta citizens to say we dont think it is right and not to have it in our provience.

Where the hell is my hetero-pride week!
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You have the right to disagree. You have the right to your own opinion. But no one can help it if almost everyone here disagrees with you.
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