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Old 11-10-2005, 02:18 AM   #31
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House suspends Alaska drilling push
Leaders drop Arctic oil proposal from budget bil

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/....ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House leaders late Wednesday abandoned an attempt to push through a hotly contested plan to open an Alaskan wildlife refuge to oil drilling, fearing it would jeopardize approval of a sweeping budget bill Thursday.

They also dropped from the budget document plans to allow states to authorize oil and gas drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts -- regions currently under a drilling moratorium.

The actions were a stunning setback for those who have tried for years to open a coastal strip of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, or ANWR, to oil development, and a victory for environmentalists, who have lobbied hard against the drilling provisions.

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:43 AM   #32
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Awesome!!

Now we just have to keep it up and make sure it doesn't EVER get through.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:32 AM   #33
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The oil in the oilsands is much more difficult to extract. It's a lengthy process and as far as pollution goes, extremely damaging.
Law of natural resource, as prices rise reserves become viable, the drive to exploit them enables new more effective technologies of extraction.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:55 AM   #34
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You'd think that with all the environmental, geopolitical and increasingly financial costs of oil based economies, the Powers That Be would at some point scratch behind their ears and look for alternatives. But I guess even a little vision is too much to ask.
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You'd think that with all the environmental, geopolitical and increasingly financial costs of oil based economies, the Powers That Be would at some point scratch behind their ears and look for alternatives. But I guess even a little vision is too much to ask.
That would be pretty logical, but we have to remember that these are politicians afterall and logic doesn't apply often. It doesn't help that many of them are wealthy oilmen themselves. I used to think that the automobile industry would be a hindrance too, but them seem to be coming around in terms of developing alternative cars.
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You'd think that with all the environmental, geopolitical and increasingly financial costs of oil based economies, the Powers That Be would at some point scratch behind their ears and look for alternatives. But I guess even a little vision is too much to ask.
Why do we sit around expecting someone else to come up with alternatives?

If there is a viable (cost effective) alternative, a free market would produce it absent a sinister plan to keep it a secret.
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House suspends Alaska drilling push
Leaders drop Arctic oil proposal from budget bil

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/....ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House leaders late Wednesday abandoned an attempt to push through a hotly contested plan to open an Alaskan wildlife refuge to oil drilling, fearing it would jeopardize approval of a sweeping budget bill Thursday.

They also dropped from the budget document plans to allow states to authorize oil and gas drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts -- regions currently under a drilling moratorium.

The actions were a stunning setback for those who have tried for years to open a coastal strip of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, or ANWR, to oil development, and a victory for environmentalists, who have lobbied hard against the drilling provisions.

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Old 11-10-2005, 07:54 PM   #38
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Thanks joyfulgirl for your article - that is GREAT news!


Here is an email I received today:


Dear NRDC Action Fund Supporter,

Fantastic news! Late last night, after months of intense pressure from
millions
of pro-environment activists like you, the House leadership dropped its
plan to
allow oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as part of
the budget
bill.

In the end, they were forced to retreat after some 22 courageous
Republican
Congressmen stood their ground and promised to vote against their own
party's
budget if it sacrificed America's greatest wildlife refuge. With every
single
Democrat also opposing the budget, the leadership blinked.

It was the kind of showdown at high noon that restores one's faith both
in
democracy and the sanctity of America's natural heritage.

Make no mistake: we must now remain vigilant. Senate and House
negotiators
could still revive the Arctic drilling provision when they hammer out a
final
budget measure next month (the Senate version of the budget includes
Arctic
drilling).

If that happens, we'll be calling on you to shore up Republican
moderates in
the House who have promised to oppose and defeat any such last-ditch
ploy to
sneak Arctic drilling into the final budget legislation.

But last night's development is a stunning setback for President Bush,
for
Congressional leaders, and for the oil lobby -- all of whom vowed that
2005
would be the year they finally pried the Arctic Refuge out of the
clenched
hands of the American people.

And it is a huge -- and I mean HUGE -- victory for all of us in the
environmental community.

Just one year ago, Washington insiders were saying that Arctic drilling
was a
done deal. President Bush was claiming a post-election mandate to
industrialize
the Arctic Refuge, and the pro-oil contingent of the Republican Party
had just
tightened its majority grip on both houses of Congress. You couldn't
find a
pundit anywhere who would give us a wisp of a chance.

But millions of people like you did the impossible! Petition by
petition, phone
call by phone call, contribution by contribution, you helped us turn
the tide
in one of the toughest uphill political battles of the past decade.

Although this battle may not be over, yesterday was a red letter day
for the
Arctic Refuge -- the greatest day since it was first protected by
Congress 25
years ago -- but it is much more than that, too. It is a triumph for
America.

November 9, 2005 was the day that nature prevailed over corporate
greed, that
beauty triumphed over a dead-end energy plan. It was the day we
reminded
Washington that preserving wilderness is a core American value -- and
that we
intend to keep it that way.

I know we can count on your help next month if Senate and House leaders
dare to
bring Arctic drilling back to the floor for a vote.

Sincerely,

John H. Adams
NRDC Action Fund

National Resources Defense Fund


Now - let's concentrate on PRESERVING THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT !
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I'm really glad for people who aren't so human-centric in their thinking. But I really dislike the term "tree-hugger". I think it's best to do away with terms like that and "environmentalist" when calling for support from the general public because it tends to turn people away who don't feel they're the type.

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How bout "Earth Lover"?
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Cult of Green seems to be most apt.
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:33 PM   #42
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I don't really like the term "tree-hugger" either but since the opponents of environmentalism like to try to throw that term in our faces when we speak of protecting the earth from unscrupulous pillage for profit, I have decided to fight fire with fire and take on their moniker for environmentalists and wear it proudly!

Earth Lover is nice.

Cult of Green isn't bad either, A_Wanderer.
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I'm a LOTR nerd, so Treehugger is just fine with me because it makes me think of Ents and hobbits.

I'd much rather hug a tree than most people.
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Cult of Green isn't bad either, A_Wanderer.
And to think I use it derrogatorily every day
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