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Old 06-15-2008, 07:02 PM   #1
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Heeee's back...The Return Of Ross Perot

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Although I never agreed with many of his policies I always liked seeing Ross Perot on the tube. I am of the belief that without Ross Perot running in the 1992 election George H.W. Bush would have become president - for that alone I think we owe Perot some respect.
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I am of the belief that without Ross Perot running in the 1992 election George H.W. Bush would have become president -.
Would have become President.

There is no logic behind that statement.

Keep in mind in 1992 the American people knew exally who George H W Bush was.

He had been Reagan's V P from 1981- 1988


and he had been President for four years when they chose not to reelect him in 1992.

Al Gore has a much better case with this argument against Nader in 2000.
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Would have become President.

There is no logic behind that statement.

Keep in mind in 1992 the American people knew exally who George H W Bush was.

He had been Reagan's V P from 1981- 1988


and he had been President for four years when they chose not to reelect him in 1992.

Al Gore has a much better case with this argument against Nader in 2000.
BULL. Although the Gore/nader case is probably justified Perot received NINETEEN MILLION VOTES!!! Of those 19 million votes only a fool would say they weren't primarily taken from Bush. Granted, some who would have voted for Clinton went with Perot but the majority were center and right of center votes. Therefore there is only one conclusion and that is Perot ruined the re-election of George H.W. Bush.
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A detailed analysis of the voting demographics revealed that Perot's support drew heavily from across the political spectrum, with 20% of his votes coming from self-described liberals, 27% from self-described conservatives, and 53% coming from self-described moderates...Exit polls also showed that Ross Perot drew 38% of his vote from Bush, and 38% of his vote from Clinton, while the rest of his voters would have stayed home in his absence on the ballot.
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If Mr. Perot had not been on the ballot, 38 percent of his voters said, they would have voted for Gov. Bill Clinton, and 38 percent said they would have voted for President Bush.
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Perot's vote totals in themselves likely did not cause Clinton to win. Even if all of these states had shifted to Bush and none of Bush's victories had been reversed (as seems plausible, in fact, as Bush won by less than 5% only in states that a Republican in a close election could expect to carry, particularly before some of the partisan shifts that took place later in the 1990s: Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, South Dakota and Virginia), Clinton still would have won the electoral college vote by 281 to 257. But such a result obviously would have made the race a good deal closer.

Also note that, per the exit polls, Clinton in fact drew more self-described moderate independents--Perot's strongest voter demographic--than either Perot or Bush.
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BULL.
When you start off a rant like this, one can't help but think of Bill O'Reilly. Made me chuckle a bit.

Carry on.
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I hope he's as funny as he used to be. Comedy gold.
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can i finish? can i finish?

okay i'm finished.
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Perot was right about "the giant sucking sound" anyway.
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Of those 19 million votes only a fool would say they weren't primarily taken from Bush.
The truth can appear foolish to those with a set opinion.
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weird to hear of this milliardaire who everyone had forgotten since last elections just when obama is on his way to the white house
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