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Old 01-31-2006, 11:44 AM   #46
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He was approved by a margin of 58 to 42. I'd really like to see the breakdown of who voted for and against.
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His action will only be remembered in the next primary - then forgotten.
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NBC, it's only fair to accuse Irvine of fearmongering if he was suggesting something that had not previously happened. What he's implying DID happen and will again if (which I think still very unlikely) abortion is made completely illegal.

For those who want to illegalize abortion totally: what makes you think making it illegal will make it go away? We actually tried that before, and it was about as effective as prohibition.

(WTF am I doing on an abortion thread???)
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He was approved by a margin of 58 to 42. I'd really like to see the breakdown of who voted for and against.
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NBC, it's only fair to accuse Irvine of fearmongering if he was suggesting something that had not previously happened.
Fearmongering has been used against the GOP regarding the fight against terrorism. I do believe that we have previously experienced acts of terror.
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That's besides the point. You're working from a "tit for tat" place here, rather than from an analytical or problem-solving place. Hence no attempt to respond to my point that prohibiting abortion, as evidenced by history, is unlikely to solve that problem.
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That's besides the point. You're working from a "tit for tat" place here, rather than from an analytical or problem-solving place. Hence no attempt to respond to my point that prohibiting abortion, as evidenced by history, is unlikely to solve that problem.
That was the point of my interchange with Irvine. He even stated that he was being a bit humorous.

If you want to start a thread on abortion, do so. I'm not sure an independent evaluation of my interchange with Irvine is the best place to start.
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okay, i'm not going to post the pick, but i'll leave the link here:

http://members.aol.com/lupinaccim/ba...y-abortion.jpg

as for Sherry and NBC, there's elements of truth to both. in the terms of the argument/discussion being held here and a reference to how both political parties use fear to motivate the base, i was being flippant, just a bit.

however, comparing terrorism to abortion is way, way incorrect, and the fearmongering used to justify the "war on terror" is far more suspect than the years of evidence of back-alley abortions and their disasterous effects.

besides, not many of us know someone who has been in a terrorist attack. i'm willing to bet that ALL of us know a woman who has had an abortion.
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as for Sherry and NBC, there's elements of truth to both. in the terms of the argument/discussion being held here and a reference to how both political parties use fear to motivate the base, i was being flippant, just a bit.

however, comparing terrorism to abortion is way, way incorrect, and the fearmongering used to justify the "war on terror" is far more suspect than the years of evidence of back-alley abortions and their disasterous effects.

besides, not many of us know someone who has been in a terrorist attack. i'm willing to bet that ALL of us know a woman who has had an abortion.


Why is it when the principle applies both ways, we get a "but my side is more important" without any substance to the argument?

And I would suggest that we all have witnessed a terror attack (perhaps even live on television), but few of us actually know someone who has had a "back alley" abortion.
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I do, and I'd be willing to bet quite a bit you do too, but don't know it. The thing is that these are mostly older women who had abortions pre-Roe, and they are even less likely than younger women to discuss it openly. Just because it's legal doesn't mean women feel safe talking to anyone else, even their close female friends and relatives, about it.
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Why is it when the principle applies both ways, we get a "but my side is more important" without any substance to the argument?

And I would suggest that we all have witnessed a terror attack (perhaps even live on television), but few of us actually know someone who has had a "back alley" abortion.


there's no merit to applying "the principle" to two entirely different situations. none.

your second statement is probably one only a male could make. and i say that as not only a male, but a male who is not in danger of getting anyone pregnant, ever.
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your second statement is probably one only a male could make. and i say that as not only a male, but a male who is not in danger of getting anyone pregnant, ever.
No kidding.

Because a woman who went through something like that would run to a man who is firmly set against her right to choose so she could share in the intimate details of the event. Let's get real here.
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