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Old 01-22-2006, 03:15 AM   #16
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For what it's worth now, the Israeli government has said from the beginning (of the Iraq war) that Well um frankly, we actually consider Iran a more dangerous enemy.

I am still not fully decided myself on whether Ahmadinajad is really a "nutjob" erratically spouting whatever day-glo apocalyptic vision springs to mind, or a more canny sort of "true believer" with a calculated strategy to his rhetoric.

Perhaps the distinction is irrelevant.
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Old 01-22-2006, 04:39 AM   #17
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He's not without his supporters here in Australia

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Old 01-22-2006, 05:17 AM   #18
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This is a country led by nutjobs, and I don't believe we are in a position to give them latitude here. Their leadership is bellicose, unwilling to co-operate, obstinate (they make the North Koreans look like model diplomats), racist, and downright dangerous.
Except for the concentration camps where they do test poison gass on human ofcourse,......


BTW, i do not have problems with Iran having a nucluair bomb, especialy when there are big western countries still think they have a monopoly on nucluair weapons and still making new ( smaller ) ones and threaten to use them against so called terorist countries ( where also inocent people live).
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They should want protection from the people - which can be delivered swiftly from the barrel of the gun when granted nuclear immunity.

Even if the regime wasn't openly calling for the destruction of Israel regardless of the cost to the "world of Islam" what do you believe the rulers of this "so-called terrorist country" will do when they can dispose of internal dissent without any international ramifications?

Sign of more things to come?

The North Koreans run a slave state as it is, even if they had nuclear weapons they would use them pragmatically as a means to keep the state running through leverage. That country cannot become any worse than is now (unless war ever occured which would kill millions more all over North Asia). The DPRK is influenced by China at times and it's actions are tempered by it. It does not seem that the Mesiah of the end of days is having the same effect on the ruling class of Iran, if given the chance to exercise their power fully without fear things could become a lot worse.
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We should mainly encourage the pro-democracy movement in Iran. It's pretty popular, it's just being excluded from the government by the nutjobs.
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Iranian reformists have said they don't want American help. They have even refused American money.

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I can understand why they wouldn't want American help. The last time we intervened in Iranian politics, we screwed a democratically elected government and put the shah, with his SAVAK squads, in power. They probably don't think they can trust us.
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I would support an action to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.
By virtually anyone other than the US or Israel...
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Every nuclear or atomic bomb should be destoryed or dismantled, it's as simple as that.....

....and the US, Poms and France should not be exempt from this...
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Every nuclear or atomic bomb should be destoryed or dismantled, it's as simple as that.....

....and the US, Poms and France should not be exempt from this...
My thoughts exactly!
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Israel has stated on more than one ocassion that we will not tolerate nuclear weapons in any Arab nation (hence us taking out the facility in Iraq) - ESPECIALLY if that nation has pledged our destruction.

Its been a guessing game for many years on whether or not Israel has nuclear weapons (I for one have NO idea), but in any case Israel would NEVER be the first country in the Middle East to use them.

The situation with Iran is different than the situation that prevailed in Iraq in 1981 when Israel bombed the Iraqi reactor (and was strongly condemmed for it until the passage of time proved that we actually did the world a big favour by taking it out....). I believe that Iran's bark is worse than its bite but, on the other hand, if it was attacked by anyone, they have a large terror network at their disposal (the Hizbollah among other things..) and they can turn the entire western world into a war zone.

I believe that a military solution is not prudent at this stage. I also believe (or hope) that the Iranian people will smarten up and realize that their president is doing them more harm than good.

As for us, we've always known how to defend ourselves.
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http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line...7945151146.htm

Now he says this is the final battle between the West and Islam??

Note to Iranians next time vote for someone who wasn't in a loony bin!
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It's sad that anyone thinks military intervention (war) will "solve" terrorism or hatred. Bin Laden would be smiling.
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It would solve the problem of a nuclear Iran - it worked before.
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Tough Talk from Both Sides.

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