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Old 08-06-2006, 08:53 PM   #16
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That's uncharacteristically rude of you, 80s.

It was extremely rude of Indra to call the people who didn't agree with him on the WMD issue "stupid". Why didn't you get onto Indra for that remark?
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:55 PM   #17
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I also have a belief that Saddam smuggled what little he did have out.

I do not believe the intelligence agencies of Germany, France, and the UK could be so wrong on their own intelligence.

I am discounting the US intelligence because I cannot trust them.
That's exactly how I see it, Dread.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:58 PM   #18
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I can believe E.T. is coming home for dinner but without any solid evidence, that's just a fairy tale.
Anitram, surely you are aware by now that Charles Duelfer himself, he who wrote the Iraq Security report of which teh article speaks, said that in the weeks before the invasion, large trucks were spotted by satellite carrying large "unknown material" from Iraq to Syria, and that he couldn't rule out the possibility that the "unknown material" were WMD.
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Thanks for the support, Dreadsox.
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I can believe E.T. is coming home for dinner but without any solid evidence, that's just a fairy tale.
All those trucks heading off to Syria before the war, the history of Iraq sending it's fighter aircraft our of the country or burying them during the first GUlf War are both lines of evidence to that effect. The allegations by the former Iraqi Air Forces commander that the WMD had been shipped off to Syria is a bit more along those lines.

Saddam Hussein definitely had WMD after the first Gulf War, the bulk of stockpiles were destroyed or expired but he maintained the programs, skilled individuals and the Iraqi government was still looking for supplies of Uranium from Niger (Joseph Wilson's claims do not gel with the British intelligence or the presence of an Iraqi diplomat in the country seeking to open trade links who had been heavily involved in Iraq's dealings on such matters before).

Saying definitively that there were no WMD is a lie (since we have found a few hundred old chemical munitions), saying that Saddam had large stockpiles looks wrong and the truth seems to be that he had relatively little and was using bluff to keep Iran at bay - this strategy was to be done as long as UN sanctions existed.
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It was extremely rude of Indra to call the people who didn't agree with him on the WMD issue "stupid". Why didn't you get onto Indra for that remark?
'She'. I was referring to you biting back. It's uncharacteristic. That's all.
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Anitram, surely you are aware by now that Charles Duelfer himself, he who wrote the Iraq Security report of which teh article speaks, said that in the weeks before the invasion, large trucks were spotted by satellite carrying large "unknown material" from Iraq to Syria, and that he couldn't rule out the possibility that the "unknown material" were WMD.
Yes, except he also said (as per the report), that "ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place."
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'She'. I was referring to you biting back. It's uncharacteristic. That's all.
Bite me my Outback Special!!!!

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Americans are stupid isn't?

I could joke and say no, it's the truth, but you've both misunderstood me so I am guessing my joking is not going to be welcomed.
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Bite me my Outback Special!!!!

And as bender says "bite my shiney metal ass!"

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'She'. I was referring to you biting back. It's uncharacteristic. That's all.
I can bite back. I usually don't take such a big bite, but I can bite back. You called it rude, but I don't see it that way - it is the truth; if Indra calls my beliefs stupid, I know that I'm holding true to the values I want to have.
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I could joke and say no, it's the truth, but you've both misunderstood me so I am guessing my joking is not going to be welcomed.
You know Mrs. Dread and I would welcome you anytime!!!!
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I can bite back. I usually don't take such a big bite, but I can bite back. You called it rude, but I don't see it that way - it is the truth; if Indra calls my beliefs stupid, I know that I'm holding true to the values I want to have.
It's cool, 80s. I dont often see you do so, that's all.

Hey dread, did you know I'm a swinger? According to some FYM politics poll, I'm a much loved (by the media) swing voter! Having me visit you guys could be like having a visit from an indecisive schizophrenic outback 'roo burger!



I shall refrain from derailing this thread now.
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The WMD issue has always been sticky for me and I generally try to avoid thinking about it. I don't know much about these kinds of things and generally follow these stories in the media less than others. All I can say for sure is that my fiance is related to someone who works for the government who was part of this investigation and he always said that theres way more to it than what the media has covered. Personally, I always prefer to err on the side of caution and I would never even consider starting a war unless I had 100% proof that these weapons did in fact exists and were intended to be used against other countries. To date, I'm not really convinced either way.
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if Indra calls my beliefs stupid, I know that I'm holding true to the values I want to have.

That thick dumb dipshit you voted for is, in fact,

The worst president............EVER

the worst entrepreneur........EVER

the worst Harvard MBA grad...........EVER

the worst Christian........................EVER

the worst diplomat........................EVER

the worst drunk.........................................EVER

and the biggest terrorist..............................EVER

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