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Old 02-13-2004, 07:47 PM   #1
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Feb. 13 CBS apologized Friday to American Indians angered by OutKast's Grammy Awards performance, which featured feathers and war paint.
''We are very sorry if anyone was offended,'' said Nancy Carr, a CBS spokeswoman in Los Angeles.
As the final act of Sunday's Grammy telecast, OutKast's Andre ''3000'' Benjamin and several dancers swirled wildly around a green teepee as he sang ''Hey Ya!'' Costumes included war paint, feathers and fringe.
OutKast's hip-hoppy jive won three trophies: best urban-alternative performance for ''Hey Ya!'' and best rap album and overall album of the year for ''Speakerboxxx/The Love Below.''
''I like OutKast. I like their music,'' said Tom Bee, an Albuquerque record producer and musician, who was nominated for the Native American music Grammy. ''But I thought the show was not correct. It was degrading.''
The San Francisco-based Native American Cultural Center called for a boycott of CBS; OutKast; Arista, their record company; and the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, which sponsors the Grammys.
The center also has filed a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission and said it posted documents online explaining ''why this broadcast was racist and why the companies involved need to take responsibility for their commercialization of Native American culture.''
The Web site also urged viewers to ''Turn Off CBS,'' and for each boycotter to ask 10 friends to do likewise.
In New York, a woman who answered the phone Friday at Arista Records' publicity office said OutKast had no immediate comment.
George Toya of the Jemez Pueblo powwow group Black Eagle, who was in the audience at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, said he was initially happy when he heard the chant that opened OutKast's performance. He thought he was about to see an American Indian group perform.
''It was a Navajo song that I recognized, and I got a little excited,'' said Toya, who was at the ceremony with other members of Black Eagle to pick up a Grammy for best Native American music album for ''Flying Free.''
But the drumming was actually the intro to ''Hey Ya!''
Toya said he couldn't believe it.
''I told my wife who was sitting beside me, 'Somebody is going to be (angry) about this,''' he said.
American Indians across the country were angered by what they said was a performance disrespectful to their culture and a perpetuation of tomahawk-and-teepee stereotypes.
The Oneida Nation criticized the performance on Tuesday.
Indianz.com launched an online petition calling for an apology from Andre. By Wednesday night, there were 2,500 signatures.
Bee was particularly angered that the dancers who accompanied Andre wore feathers, a sacred symbol for American Indians.


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lol. it always seems like someone's offended by something, doesn't it?
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I know.

Wtf?
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lol. it always seems like someone's offended by something, doesn't it?
It does. It was just a music performance, no need to take it so seriously. I don't think it was Outkast's intent to offend anybody.

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It does. It was just a music performance, no need to take it so seriously. I don't think it was Outkast's intent to offend anybody.

Angela
exactly.

personally, i think a lot people decide that they're "offended" just because they want attention.

and this happens in all groups, and all different kinds of people.
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Some one should sue.



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But aren't we all suppposed to be offended by sports teams that use Native American figures as mascots or symbols?

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I don't know. I kind of understand their point. If another performance had had a blackface minstrel show, most people would understandably find that derogatory and offensive.

I didn't see it, though, so I have no idea what it was like.






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I don't blame Native Americans for being offended. Many of their dances are an expression of their spiritual beliefs. How would you feel if someone portrayed something that's part of your religion in a cheesy way?

That being said, I don't like the idea of filing a complaint with the FCC. Don't we have enough of that already these days? I'm afraid if any more FCC complaints get filed it's going to have a really stifling effect. Everyone will be afraid to say or do anything controversial when they are on TV and I don't think that's a good thing. Freedom of speech isn't there to protect speech we approve of - it's to protect speech some people may not want to hear (or in this case see).
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But aren't we all suppposed to be offended by sports teams that use Native American figures as mascots or symbols?

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lol.

i still call marquette the warriors! i refuse to call them the golden eagles.

personally, i think the easier one becomes offended, the weaker they look in the end.
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It does. It was just a music performance, no need to take it so seriously. I don't think it was Outkast's intent to offend anybody.

and even if they DID intent to offend people, they're OUTKAST, what else is new?

When I read the title of this thread my first thought was "who didn't see this one coming? ". I remember watching this and thinking to myself how hilarious it would have been if they used Dutch Klompen dancers instead of Native Americans. I would have laughed my ass off, and I'm 100% Dutch! oh wait, my skin is white so my heritage counts for nothing....
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I can understand that the Native Americans aren't exactly drinking champagne over this incident, but an investigation? Can you say "censorship"? There are too many investigations of allegedly offensive behavior going on.
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But aren't we all suppposed to be offended by sports teams that use Native American figures as mascots or symbols?
Bama, you do know "Redskin" is a slur, right?

Come on, people. I agree that there's no reason for the FCC or other government bodies to censor speech that is "offensive" to certain ethnic groups...but if you're white, imagine if you lived in, say, South Korea or India or Ghana. You'd probably feel a little bit sensitive and self-conscious about being a minority. If you were being caricatured in this sort of fashion, you'd probably be offended, wouldn't you?

(Full disclosure: I am a Korean-American, for those who don't know.)
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I thought it was a creative idea, Native tribes from space, in all the history of the movies no one's ever had that idea! I thought it would be a compliment, like in 1000 years (it was the year 3000) they would take over the world I know their rituals are sacred, but after all those years of bad "Indian" movies and sports references, these days when so much has been fictionalized and glamorized, you'd think people would take that into consideration. I'm sure Andre meant no offense.

Don't forget, they're also being sued by 91 year old Rosa Parks for their song using her name.
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