financeguy said:Go fuck yourself, you sad little man.
Also out of line.
Both of you know better. Discuss and/or attack the position, not the person.
financeguy said:Go fuck yourself, you sad little man.
You gotta love Mitt's childlike wonderment at all his new discoveries of how the little people live. See Mitt, it's like when you push buttons for your car elevator in your mansion in La Jolla. Or maybe you pay someone to do that for you. So eliminating a human cashier is good for the economy?
MSNBC Romney Edit Draws Fire; Andrea Mitchell Briefly Addresses Controversy (VIDEO)
And you wonder why I asked you to please reference the source of your articles a few months back. Because of this crap.
MSNBC... again, and yet it's Fox News that gets the thread 51 pages long and running.
And since I'm grumpy, where's the "let's talk issues" police that flag me for talking about Obama's radical associations when the subject turns to Mitt's car elevators?
I don't have a car, an elevator, or an elevator for my car.
What the hell is a car elevator?
And since I'm grumpy, where's the "let's talk issues" police that flag me for talking about Obama's radical associations when the subject turns to Mitt's car elevators?
And Obama would be the Joker. . .
aha, got there ahead of you INDY!
It says Yahoo news, do you not see that? I'm not clairvoyant, so I can't tell if yahoo stole it from MSNBC. I can't be bothered to read the MSNBC link-I have a colossal headache and shoulder pain and frankly I don't give a rat's butt. Some people are into grumpy gotcha back and forth here, not me. This used to be an enjoyable place for me, it isn't anymore and hasn't been for quite a while.
Mitt's care elevator is an issue for ME, because it's perfectly symbolic for ME of who he is.. that he's never had to struggle financially for a single thing. I know, and I don't have to reference any source, the type of politician he is because he was the governor of MA- not Indiana. So dare I say that I do know more than you do about that. I know his m o and I'm not impressed. Ditto for the job he did as governor. Did I think he was the least offensive candidate? Yes, but a smaller piece of horse crap in a big steaming pile of horse crap is still a piece of horse crap. He never made my life better then and he's not going to do it now. If I thought he could make one iota of difference in this country as President, I might actually be tempted to vote for him-even though I disagree with most of (if not all, if I actually cared enough to research all of them) his positions on issues and think he's pretty much a hypocritical fake opportunist.
I don't have a car, an elevator, or an elevator for my car. The biggest splurge I've made recently was a nice pair of sandals on the clearance rack at DSW for 17 dollars after three coupons. I have to enjoy the simple pleasures in life, and honestly most days I struggle to find a reason to want to get up the next day. Everyone's got problems and many people have it worse off than I do. I don't begrudge Mitt one cent of his wealth or expect him to give me any of it, believe it or not. Good for him. I question how he made it at Bain, what went on there. He's one of many who made lots o' money off of people losing their jobs. But he's a master job creator. And I do know that he can't relate to someone like me at all, despite all his two bit embarrassingly laughable attempts to be "real" and "regular". That I know instinctively, without CNN MSNBC or Fox.
So that's pretty much it. You are free to start a 51 page thread about MSNBC, no one's stopping you. I'll look up some news stories about them and reference the sources. I don't watch MSNBC at all, I read and walk and watch my tv shows and sports.
Marco Rubio Not Being Vetted to Be Mitt Romney’s Running Mate - ABC News
Rubio is a loser, if Romney picks him, the contest is over.
"Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process," Romney said during a campaign stop in Holland, Mich.
"There was a story that originated today apparently at ABC based upon reports of supposedly outside unnamed advisers of mine. I can't imagine who such people are," Romney said. "But I can tell you this: They know nothing about the vice presidential selection or evaluation process. There are only two people in this country who know who are being vetted and who are not, and that's Beth Myers and myself.
"The story was entirely false," he said. "Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process."
sorry ladies! and please stop talking about vaginas in Michigan!
Now that he's been named the next president of Purdue University, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels says he's going to swear off partisan politics and spend the next few months learning the world of academia.
The Republican, who decided against a White House bid, was introduced today as Purdue's 12th president after a vote of its board of trustees. Daniels will take over the post in January, when his term ends as governor.
once again Indy
proof that you did pick a quality person, sounds like this is one politician with a bit of class (no pun)
If Obama actually IS involved with some "radical" person or group currently, and his involvement would have an actual impact on his presidency, then, believe it or not, we here would discuss such a thing.
But then again, your idea of what constitutes "radical" is vastly different from most people's, so it's hard to know how accurate the accusations are. Who was it a while back that made the insinuation that Obama (may) have read socialist or communist literature when he was younger, therefore, GASP, he's clearly a socialist or communist, or at least has sympathies with such political beliefs.
financeguy said:I'm not sure if I'd agree with that, TBH. We have had posts from posters here admitting that part of the reason they advocate for Obama is that they fancy him. Maybe they were joke posts, maybe not. All I know is I saw posts, maybe not here but on other forums, circa 2003-2005, saying Bush is going to save us, Bush is going to defend us from the terrorists, Bush is such a strong cowboy, and don't he look swell in his cowboy hat and riding out on his ranch. And it didn't seem like they were joking, certainly not in the febrile atmosphere that existed in the years of the Great War on Terror (remember that?)
America. much as I love it (from a distance) has a big problem, IMO, with investing too much in its presidents, in hagiographing these figures, when they are really just men, with feet of clay, like all men.
I'm not sure if I'd agree with that, TBH. We have had posts from posters here admitting that part of the reason they advocate for Obama is that they fancy him. Maybe they were joke posts, maybe not. All I know is I saw posts, maybe not here but on other forums, circa 2003-2005, saying Bush is going to save us, Bush is going to defend us from the terrorists, Bush is such a strong cowboy, and don't he look swell in his cowboy hat and riding out on his ranch. And it didn't seem like they were joking, certainly not in the febrile atmosphere that existed in the years of the Great War on Terror (remember that?)
America. much as I love it (from a distance) has a big problem, IMO, with investing too much in its presidents, in hagiographing these figures, when they are really just men, with feet of clay, like all men.
The current mood on FYM, if you ask me, is so dismissive of anything vaguely suggestive of conservative opinion, so ready to accuse any philosophy slightly right of centre of being borderline fascist, so ready to convict anti-Obama people of racism and all sorts of prejudices, that it's vaguely disturbing. There's a sense that people sitting on the fence might almost be afraid to voice an opinion lest they be accused of thought crime! That's just a personal perspective, btw - I can't claim to speak for others on the right wing here.
I agree that it's no big deal that Obama has read communist literature, if that's the case. Anyone of above average intellect and learning will have done so, at some stage, one hopes - all the great economists that I am aware of are well-versed in Marxist economic literature - mainly in order to critique it, granted.
The evidence for condemning Obama of being a closet commie on the basis of books he may or may not have read is, I'd grant you, pretty suspect. If one wants to accuse Obama of socialism, one is better off looking at his record - and that record, from where I'm sitting, is profoundly pro-statist and not at all friendly to the business owner class. He has displayed little or no evidence of any level of common feeling or sympathy with entrepreneurs and small business owners - you know, the people that actually will eventually create the jobs that will get this godamn economy back on its feet again.