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Old 03-15-2012, 10:39 PM   #451
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(Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told Puerto Ricans on Wednesday they would have to make English their primary language if they want to pursue U.S. statehood, a statement at odds with the U.S. Constitution.

Santorum traveled to the U.S. territory to campaign ahead of the island's Republican primary election scheduled for Sunday, where he, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are vying for 20 delegates.

Puerto Ricans, who recognize both English and Spanish as their official languages, are scheduled to vote in November on a referendum to decide whether they want to pursue statehood or remain a self-governing U.S. commonwealth.

In an interview with El Vocero newspaper, Santorum said he supported Puerto Ricans' right to self-determination regarding the island's political status.

"We need to work together and determine what type of relationship we want to develop," he told the newspaper.

But Santorum said he did not support a state in which English was not the primary language.

"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."

However, the U.S. Constitution does not designate an official language, nor is there a requirement that a territory adopt English as its primary language in order to become a state.

Congress would have to give approval if Puerto Rico is to become the 51st state. Although Congress has considered numerous proposals to make English the official U.S. language, none has ever passed.

However, some states have passed their own laws declaring English the official language, including heavily Hispanic Florida.

Puerto Rico has about 4 million people and its population can vote in partisan primaries but not presidential elections. Puerto Ricans on the mainland have the same voting rights as other U.S. citizens.

Santorum's statement may fall flat with Puerto Rican Republicans, who have always argued that issues of language and culture should be controlled by state governments and not the federal government.

It also could alienate the 4.2 million Puerto Ricans who live on the U.S. mainland, including nearly 1 million in presidential swing-state Florida.

Romney and Gingrich have both said Puerto Ricans must decide their future for themselves. Romney has said that if they choose to pursue statehood, he would help them achieve it.

Romney, who is scheduled to travel to Puerto Rico on Friday and stay through the weekend, won the endorsement of Governor Luis Fortuno, who is also the head of Puerto Rico's pro-statehood New Progressive Party.

Santorum was to meet with Fortuno on Wednesday before a town hall meeting with residents.

He said he and Fortuno are friends because they went to the same church in Washington when Fortuno served as Puerto Rico's non-voting representative in the U.S. Congress from 2004-2008.

Santorum also said that he does not support "at this time" allowing residents in territories like Puerto Rico to vote for president, although he said he was open to analyzing alternatives, such as allowing their votes to count in the popular vote but not in the Electoral College.
Being a Puerto Rican and living in the island, I find it disgusting that Santorum is saying this - with respect to those in favor of him. I mean, our governor endorsed Romney, so really I don't know why he's campaigning here, when he might not get the majority of the votes at all on Sunday. Telling us that we have to speak English primarily is just bull. That statement will, and has already caused controversy throughout the island.
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Indeed. Times have changed and the way we do things needs to change along with it. And god, YES, term limits for Congress, please. Please. I'm really tired of seeing people who've been there since...what...the early '60s, it seems? That's ridiculous.
god, yes. i also think the privileges anyone who served in congress gets for the rest of their lives is a bit too much, but that's never going to change.

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Yeah, so, um, Santorum IS aware we don't have an official language in this country, right? I'll give him this, at least he was bluntly honest towards Puerto Ricans. How in the hell he thinks that'll endear them to him, I don't know, but at least he isn't shying away from his true feelings on the subject.

(Also, geez, there are people who are born and raised here whom I think would do well to learn some decent English-speaking skills before we start yelling at immigrants about it )
exactly. i guess he figures he's got such a lead there, it doesn't matter, which probably isn't even the case. maybe he figures since they won't be able to vote in november it doesn't matter if he alienates puerto ricans. though if he thinks his comments are only going to piss off puerto ricans currently in puerto rico, he's an idiot. my guess is he thought by alienating a small percentage (though lol, how many hispanics are there in america? oh, that's right!) of people, he'd further endear himself to the far right who think in america you need to be only speaking english.

(and agreed!)
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god, yes. i also think the privileges anyone who served in congress gets for the rest of their lives is a bit too much, but that's never going to change.
This is true, too *Nods*.

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exactly. i guess he figures he's got such a lead there, it doesn't matter, which probably isn't even the case. maybe he figures since they won't be able to vote in november it doesn't matter if he alienates puerto ricans. though if he thinks his comments are only going to piss off puerto ricans currently in puerto rico, he's an idiot. my guess is he thought by alienating a small percentage (though lol, how many hispanics are there in america? oh, that's right!) of people, he'd further endear himself to the far right who think in america you need to be only speaking english.

(and agreed!)
If that's his train of thought, that's going to, well, um...derail him a bit . Like you said, there's plenty of people outside of Puerto Rico who CAN vote who will hear this. Hispanics, as stated, and people who aren't Hispanic but find the beliefs regarding language that some seem to have in our country to be amusing/annoying/offensive/etc.

He's already pretty well loved by the far right as it is. I don't know (or want to know) how much farther right he can possibly go.
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guys, Rick cares:

Santorum Promises Broad War on Porn - Forbes
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War on Porn. Lol.

The man wants to instigate war. Baaad.

Rick, you cannot instill morals into individuals. Whether or not you believe something is bad, you cannot stop people from ultimately carrying out something. The harder you try to do so, the worse the situation is going to get. See gambling, prohibition, etc.
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His woman vote was dwindling, now his male vote will take a nosedive as well.
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I can hear the rallying cry now.



You can take away my life, but you cannot have my porn!
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Prohobition had worked so well with alcohol, and the war on drugs has been a smashing success....i'd love to see what a war on porn would create????
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He might have to prove that porn has a nuclear weapons program first. Or at least a crazy dictator overseeing all the porn.
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For the most part the porn industry speaks English, worship capitalism, and they say "god" a lot, you'd think he'd like them.
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Being a Puerto Rican and living in the island, I find it disgusting that Santorum is saying this - with respect to those in favor of him. I mean, our governor endorsed Romney, so really I don't know why he's campaigning here, when he might not get the majority of the votes at all on Sunday. Telling us that we have to speak English primarily is just bull. That statement will, and has already caused controversy throughout the island.
Thanks for giving your opinion, interesting to hear from someone who lives in Puerto Rico
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He's even talking about porn on cable and in hotels. Don't you have to choose to get that and pay for it? So it's not as if you're just channel surfing and are forced to see it.

We really don't have bigger issues going on in this country? It's not my thing but I really think the POTUS should be concerned with other issues. His personal morality is one thing and that's his choice, but I don't want a President who operates entirely through the prism of his/her religious and personal beliefs. And makes priorities and decisions based solely on that.
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At least he has one good quality, being self deprecating about his appearance

Santorum Sunbathing Offers Clue to Why Politicians Wear Suits and Ties - ABC News

Those pics of Mitt in a wet suit look semi hot by comparison (yes, I did look). His sons look like Ken dolls but they are pretty cute.
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He might have to prove that porn has a nuclear weapons program first.
There's a joke in that sentence somewhere....

So, in order to round up and punish these porn makers, clearly this means he and his buddies in this "war" will have to actively search these people out, right? You know. They have to "see" just how bad this stuff is in order to "protect" us. Or something.

With this guy's uber-rigid attitudes about sex and things related to it, I still maintain there is something lurking in his closet somewhere. Either that or he's the most uptight person I think I've seen in years.
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50 bucks says that one of Santorum's kids comes out of the closet in 5 years. Or less, if he is successful.
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