GOP Nominee 2012 - Who Will It Be?, Pt. 4

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(Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told Puerto Ricans on Wednesday they would have to make English their primary language if they want to pursue U.S. statehood, a statement at odds with the U.S. Constitution.

Santorum traveled to the U.S. territory to campaign ahead of the island's Republican primary election scheduled for Sunday, where he, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are vying for 20 delegates.

Puerto Ricans, who recognize both English and Spanish as their official languages, are scheduled to vote in November on a referendum to decide whether they want to pursue statehood or remain a self-governing U.S. commonwealth.

In an interview with El Vocero newspaper, Santorum said he supported Puerto Ricans' right to self-determination regarding the island's political status.

"We need to work together and determine what type of relationship we want to develop," he told the newspaper.

But Santorum said he did not support a state in which English was not the primary language.

"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."

However, the U.S. Constitution does not designate an official language, nor is there a requirement that a territory adopt English as its primary language in order to become a state.

Congress would have to give approval if Puerto Rico is to become the 51st state. Although Congress has considered numerous proposals to make English the official U.S. language, none has ever passed.

However, some states have passed their own laws declaring English the official language, including heavily Hispanic Florida.

Puerto Rico has about 4 million people and its population can vote in partisan primaries but not presidential elections. Puerto Ricans on the mainland have the same voting rights as other U.S. citizens.

Santorum's statement may fall flat with Puerto Rican Republicans, who have always argued that issues of language and culture should be controlled by state governments and not the federal government.

It also could alienate the 4.2 million Puerto Ricans who live on the U.S. mainland, including nearly 1 million in presidential swing-state Florida.

Romney and Gingrich have both said Puerto Ricans must decide their future for themselves. Romney has said that if they choose to pursue statehood, he would help them achieve it.

Romney, who is scheduled to travel to Puerto Rico on Friday and stay through the weekend, won the endorsement of Governor Luis Fortuno, who is also the head of Puerto Rico's pro-statehood New Progressive Party.

Santorum was to meet with Fortuno on Wednesday before a town hall meeting with residents.

He said he and Fortuno are friends because they went to the same church in Washington when Fortuno served as Puerto Rico's non-voting representative in the U.S. Congress from 2004-2008.

Santorum also said that he does not support "at this time" allowing residents in territories like Puerto Rico to vote for president, although he said he was open to analyzing alternatives, such as allowing their votes to count in the popular vote but not in the Electoral College.

Being a Puerto Rican and living in the island, I find it disgusting that Santorum is saying this - with respect to those in favor of him. I mean, our governor endorsed Romney, so really I don't know why he's campaigning here, when he might not get the majority of the votes at all on Sunday. Telling us that we have to speak English primarily is just bull. That statement will, and has already caused controversy throughout the island. :doh:
 
Indeed. Times have changed and the way we do things needs to change along with it. And god, YES, term limits for Congress, please. Please. I'm really tired of seeing people who've been there since...what...the early '60s, it seems? That's ridiculous.
god, yes. i also think the privileges anyone who served in congress gets for the rest of their lives is a bit too much, but that's never going to change.

Yeah, so, um, Santorum IS aware we don't have an official language in this country, right? I'll give him this, at least he was bluntly honest towards Puerto Ricans. How in the hell he thinks that'll endear them to him, I don't know, but at least he isn't shying away from his true feelings on the subject.

(Also, geez, there are people who are born and raised here whom I think would do well to learn some decent English-speaking skills before we start yelling at immigrants about it :p)
exactly. i guess he figures he's got such a lead there, it doesn't matter, which probably isn't even the case. maybe he figures since they won't be able to vote in november it doesn't matter if he alienates puerto ricans. though if he thinks his comments are only going to piss off puerto ricans currently in puerto rico, he's an idiot. my guess is he thought by alienating a small percentage (though lol, how many hispanics are there in america? oh, that's right!) of people, he'd further endear himself to the far right who think in america you need to be only speaking english.

(and agreed!)
 
god, yes. i also think the privileges anyone who served in congress gets for the rest of their lives is a bit too much, but that's never going to change.

This is true, too *Nods*.

exactly. i guess he figures he's got such a lead there, it doesn't matter, which probably isn't even the case. maybe he figures since they won't be able to vote in november it doesn't matter if he alienates puerto ricans. though if he thinks his comments are only going to piss off puerto ricans currently in puerto rico, he's an idiot. my guess is he thought by alienating a small percentage (though lol, how many hispanics are there in america? oh, that's right!) of people, he'd further endear himself to the far right who think in america you need to be only speaking english.

(and agreed!)

If that's his train of thought, that's going to, well, um...derail him a bit :wink:. Like you said, there's plenty of people outside of Puerto Rico who CAN vote who will hear this. Hispanics, as stated, and people who aren't Hispanic but find the beliefs regarding language that some seem to have in our country to be amusing/annoying/offensive/etc.

He's already pretty well loved by the far right as it is. I don't know (or want to know) how much farther right he can possibly go.
 
War on Porn. Lol.

The man wants to instigate war. Baaad.

Rick, you cannot instill morals into individuals. Whether or not you believe something is bad, you cannot stop people from ultimately carrying out something. The harder you try to do so, the worse the situation is going to get. See gambling, prohibition, etc.
 
I can hear the rallying cry now.

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You can take away my life, but you cannot have my porn!
 
Prohobition had worked so well with alcohol, and the war on drugs has been a smashing success....i'd love to see what a war on porn would create????
 
He might have to prove that porn has a nuclear weapons program first. Or at least a crazy dictator overseeing all the porn.
 
Being a Puerto Rican and living in the island, I find it disgusting that Santorum is saying this - with respect to those in favor of him. I mean, our governor endorsed Romney, so really I don't know why he's campaigning here, when he might not get the majority of the votes at all on Sunday. Telling us that we have to speak English primarily is just bull. That statement will, and has already caused controversy throughout the island. :doh:

Thanks for giving your opinion, interesting to hear from someone who lives in Puerto Rico :)
 

He's even talking about porn on cable and in hotels. Don't you have to choose to get that and pay for it? So it's not as if you're just channel surfing and are forced to see it.

We really don't have bigger issues going on in this country? It's not my thing but I really think the POTUS should be concerned with other issues. His personal morality is one thing and that's his choice, but I don't want a President who operates entirely through the prism of his/her religious and personal beliefs. And makes priorities and decisions based solely on that.
 
For the most part the porn industry speaks English, worship capitalism, and they say "god" a lot, you'd think he'd like them. :shrug:

:lol:

He might have to prove that porn has a nuclear weapons program first.

There's a joke in that sentence somewhere...:hmm:.

So, in order to round up and punish these porn makers, clearly this means he and his buddies in this "war" will have to actively search these people out, right? You know. They have to "see" just how bad this stuff is in order to "protect" us. Or something.

With this guy's uber-rigid attitudes about sex and things related to it, I still maintain there is something lurking in his closet somewhere. Either that or he's the most uptight person I think I've seen in years.
 
I don't understand why anyone would want to combat porn. Yes, some people are addicted to sex and porn, but let their loved ones try to help them rather than the government. I see the porn addiction issue something for society to handle and for communities to come to together over. If the government gets involved, it would be like the issue would lose its communal feeling and its being handled by a small group of people who - to me - seem distant from mainstream society.

And that goes for alcohol abuse and other addictions. I don't know, I just don't like the government getting involved in social issues because I think it would work better among support groups and such. Legislation seems to take the power of the people out of their hands.

Gosh, I hope I made sense.

Anyway, just my thoughts.
 
That's another thing, too. Santorum wants the government to get involved. Again. So do conservatives like government interference or don't they? They need to start making up their minds, 'cause I'm really confused.

Apparently a while back we got notice at our store that there was a lady in a nearby town who was calling around to every one of our bookstore chains in the area complaining about the adult magazines we carry, because her husband is a porn addict and she feels that all the stores are just enabling his behavior by keeping the porn magazines out there. She says that we're breaking laws by putting that stuff out (if we were, we'd probably have been shut down, duh), and she's threatened legal action and that sort of thing. If any of us answer the phone and she's on the line, we're to not answer any of her questions and simply hand her over to our manager to deal with :der: :rolleyes:.

I don't know how they handle it at any of the other stores in our chain, but the adult magazines at our store are all in one little section on a top shelf. Most are covered completely in plastic, many have a black bar thing on the plastic covering all the parts that one would cover. And when our staff puts them away we always try and keep them as hidden away from the general public as possible, so that people who come in with their kids don't have the children stumbling across it or people who may not care for such things don't have to see it. We do everything in our power to keep that section as discreet as possible. The porn addiction is her and her husband's problem to deal with, not anyone else's. I just work there, I'm not trying to turn our customers into filth mongers.
 
I'm not saying everyone should be forced to deal with an individual's problems. I just feel the government should not get involved because it would as if the power is out of the people's hands and into those who are only concerned about being reelected so they would have a job.
 
I'm not saying everyone should be forced to deal with an individual's problems. I just feel the government should not get involved because it would as if the power is out of the people's hands and into those who are only concerned about being reelected so they would have a job.

Oh, I agree and understand what you meant. I was just ranting about my own situation in relation to that a bit, sorry :p. Not targeted at you or anyone else in particular.
 
It's about time someone is going after smut. It's degrading to women, and encourages kids to grow up to become out of control sexfiends. We need to protect society from this stuff!
 
One of my friends from high school is an obsessive Paul supporter. And on Facebook, he sent me this-

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He also wants to add Obama's face in that mash-up. Sweet delusions...:)
 
LuckyNumber7 said:
Obama is more of 'the establishment' than they are, actually.

Obama is establishment(which is the opposite of what the right is saying), but what are your arguments that he is moreso than Romney or Newt?
 
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