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Old 02-12-2012, 04:05 PM   #976
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I always thought this was a run by Santorum to position himself for 2016. I'm not sure if he is more surprised or I am about his recent momentum.
That's how I felt about Huntsman - that he was testing the waters and could see that the GOP field this time was an utter disaster. If he thinks that they'll pander to the Tea Party and get crushed by Obama, he could come back in 2016 under the banner of "it's time to get back to sane candidates."

Probably wishful thinking as I actually quite liked him as a candidate.
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It is true.

It's very unfortunate that the SCOTUS is such a politicized body in the US. There also happen to be probably 3 very distinctly possible retirements over the next 5 years - Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Kennedy and Scalia (God willing!!).
Scalia is 75, I can see him still on the court well into his 80s and even past 90.
His ego and arrogance is just too strong for him to give up that much power.

He will go out on his sick bed or death bed.
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Unfortunately I agree. My biggest concern is Ruth Bader Ginsburg - she has not been well and is the most likely next retiree.
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The most quoted speech at CPAC this year was Mitt Romney's, but my vote for the most significant goes to Grover Norquist's. In his charmingly blunt way, Norquist articulated out loud a case for Mitt Romney that you hear only whispered by other major conservative leaders. They have reconciled themselves to a Romney candidacy because they see Romney as essentially a weak and passive president who will concede leadership to congressional conservatives:
All we have to do is replace Obama...We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget...We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.
The requirement for president?
Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.
This is not a very complimentary assessment of Romney's leadership. It's also not a very realistic political program: congressional Republicans have a disapproval rating of about 75%. If Americans get the idea that a vote for Romney is a vote for the Ryan plan, Romney is more or less doomed. To date, sad to say, Romney has worked hard to confirm this image of weakness. Nobody wants a president who acts as the passive instrument of even generally popular groups like labor unions. (Did you know that—despite decades of declining popularity—unions still have an approval rating of 52%? I didn't until I looked it up.) But a candidate who appeases the most disliked people in national politics? That guy will command neither public affection nor respect.

Mitt Romney badly needs his Sister Souljah moment. Instead, he's running as Jim DeMint's doormat.
Frum, FWIW, is a classic/establishment conservative (worked for Reagan's and Giuliani's campaigns; served on the WSJ's editorial board; served as GWB's speechwriter) who deeply distrusts the Tea Party, the religious right, and orthodox supply-siders, so, make what you will of his alienation.
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Yeah, I remember Frum getting in trouble with his conservative brethren for some comments about how Republicans work for Fox News now.

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All we have to do is replace Obama...
You know, I remember in 2004 conservatives were going after those of us who were voting for Kerry because "He's not Bush" wasn't a strong argument, how we shouldn't vote for someone for the sole purpose of getting rid of a president we didn't like (and they were right about that). But now it seems they're using the same mantra this time around for their Republican nominee-"He's not Obama", "We want to make Obama a one-term president". If that's your only criteria, it's enough to tell me you truly have run out of actual ideas and plans for our country.

And yeah, if they think the Ryan plan will entice Americans, I'm curious as to where they get that idea.

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If he meant male emotions, I still find it offensive. I think in light of his overall attitude and statements going back for years, he has a certain mindset that's rather obvious.

Like I have said here already even before his recent comments, the thought of him being POTUS scares me.
Agreed. He's a moron, plain and simple.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:11 PM   #981
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Instead, he's running as Jim DeMint's doormat.

which is kind of what a consultant is, at the end of the day. he aims to please.

sadly, not working:

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By David Lauter

February 13, 2012, 9:54 a.m.
Reporting from Washington —

President Obama for the first time has opened a sizable lead over his most likely Republican opponents, thanks to growing support among independent voters, according to a new Pew Research Center poll.

The poll, released Monday, showed Rick Santorum in a virtual tie with Mitt Romney in the Republican presidential race. Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator, has moved up as a result of his backing from tea party Republicans and white evangelicals. He led Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, 30% to 28% among Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters in the survey, which was conducted Feb. 8-12 and had a margin of error of 5 percentage points. In a Pew survey only a month ago, Romney led Santorum, 31% to 14%.

But both Republicans trailed Obama by sizable margins. Obama led Santorum by 10 points among registered voters nationwide (53%-43%) and led Romney by eight points (52%-44%). Obama’s lead over Newt Gingrich, who has faded in the GOP race, was 18 points (57%-39%). In previous polls in November and January, Romney and Obama were roughly tied. Obama has moved up because of support from independent voters, 51% of whom now back him against Romney, a gain of 11 points since last month.

The latest poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press was conducted among 1,172 registered voters nationwide. It found that Santorum has become the clear favorite of tea party supporters and white evangelical Republicans. He wins support from 42% of tea party Republican voters compared with just 23% who back Romney. Santorum’s margin among white evangelical Republican voters was almost the same, 41% to 23%.

A major factor driving the Santorum surge is that an increasing number of tea party Republicans do not believe Romney is a strong conservative, the poll showed. Only 29% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters who agree with the tea party say Romney is a strong conservative, a steep drop from 51% three months ago. More than two-thirds of tea party Republicans (68%) now say Romney is not a strong conservative.

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Comparing taxes under Obama’s and Romney’s budgets - The Washington Post
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This is really wonderful to see. Let the destruction continue!!

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it would be incredible if Santorum would be the nominee.

he seems *so* easy to distract with 1960s issues like birth control and women in the military. and the Tea "we're only about economic issues and especially debt and spending issues" Party seems to love it.

please GOP, continue to discuss social issues. you become ever more unelectable every time you do.
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I agree. Though.......

Part of me is scared to death that we (being the american people) would even put someone like Santorum this close to the Presidency. While I think deep down we know Obama would wipe the floor with him.....it's that little bit of doubt that frightens me.

But he couldn't even keep his own seat in Washington, losing by the largest margin ever (maybe???), so the odds are he'll continue on about controlling woman and demonizing sex and completely lose the Independent/Moderate base....which is what wins the election
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Obama would taunt and bait him with just about every social issue imaginable, and what Rick does is not just say "here's my beliefs" which is all smart social conservatives do anyway, but he goes further and says "here's why you should live like i do and here's what i'm going to do in order to make it so that you have no other legal choice but to do so."

what's also funny is that Rick seems to genuinely have *no idea* how utterly patronizing he is to women who aren't religious social conservatives. every time he opens his mouth he loses another suburban mother.
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Weird...

Rick Santorum says women shouldn't serve in combat, but he's happy to have his wife jump on a grenade for him. When ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked the presidential candidate about a passage of his 2005 book -- "The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to happiness" -- Santorum claimed his wife wrote the passage. But as The New York Times' Brian Knowlton points out, Karen Santorum's name isn't on the cover of the It Takes a Family, and she's not listed in his acknowledgments of people "who assisted me in the writing of this book."
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She should've asked if that's the method he and his wife used to limit themselves to four, or if their sex life was just that bad.

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that made me smile
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