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Old 02-08-2012, 02:26 AM   #901
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Missouri showed us what happens to Mitt, even in a more purple/moderate State, without the hard conservative vote diluted (Gingrich not on the ballot). Romney gets trounced by 30pts...by Rick fucking Santorum...a guy that probably gets zero moderate vote.

Can you say voter apathy? And you thought 2008 was bad for Republicans...they simply don't want Mitt. I don't know that I've ever seen it like this. It's too bad Mitt sold his moderate soul McCain-style and won't be able to attract much of the middle in November.

It's already pretty much anti-climactic to me.
Looking less and less like 2004 and more and more like 1996 (just in terms of already seeing the result this far out). And I say this as someone who is and remains (in a theoretical sense) willing to vote against Obama. It's just...there is no alternative here.

Maybe Huntsman will run 3rd party...nah, probably not.
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This bodes well for Santorum in the Midwest, I suppose?

At least with him you can see the appeal to voters seeking a "true conservative," social conservatives anyway. He seems so dislikeable as a personality, though, that I'm surprised to see him getting this much traction. Then again, this has been such an insane roller coaster of a primary season that maybe nothing should surprise anymore.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:58 AM   #903
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It really has been a roller coaster. I think this shows that the GOP is completely out of step with society in general.

And the Democratic party is well on their way too.

I think that more and more people are finding themselves not being able to relate to either party.

I predict that we see some kind of real big shift after Obama's 2nd term. One that doesn't look like either one of the current parties of today.
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also, rough night for Mittens.
To a degree, but it was an even worse night for Newt. Keep in mind Romney didn't try hard in any of these 3 states- whereas Santorum had been campaigning in those states since before Florida- and no delegates were awarded. As long as Romney wins both Arizona and Michigan in a few weeks, he's fine.
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To a degree, but it was an even worse night for Newt. Keep in mind Romney didn't try hard in any of these 3 states- whereas Santorum had been campaigning in those states since before Florida- and no delegates were awarded. As long as Romney wins both Arizona and Michigan in a few weeks, he's fine.

i don't think that anyone doubts that Romney is eventually going to be the nominee, but doesn't he have a big problem here? isn't there blood in the water? not so much in his path to victory but in the low turnout and huge resistance to him among the base which does not bode well for the general -- the only way Bush eeked out a win in '04 was because he turned out the evangelicals, especially in SE Ohio.

in a way, this speaks highly of Romney. i find the GOP base repugnant. i myself wouldn't be that uncomfortable with a Romney presidency.
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Keep in mind Romney didn't try hard in any of these 3 states- whereas Santorum had been campaigning in those states since before Florida- and no delegates were awarded.

It was my understanding that for Colorado (36) and Minnesota (40) delegates were awarded. Missouri was indeed just a beauty contest, with a caucus on March 17th, but the other two had more delegates at stake than Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina together.
I understand that the Romney camp was downplaying the importance of yesterday's results, but others might disagree with that.
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I think the backlash against the birth control issue was a factor. The other candidates even used it against Romney and said that he did the same thing in MA. There were probably ads about it.

Even some Democrats have been critical of it, and I think you'll see the administration back off of it in fear of the political consequences.
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It was my understanding that for Colorado (36) and Minnesota (40) delegates were awarded. Missouri was indeed just a beauty contest, with a caucus on March 17th, but the other two had more delegates at stake than Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina together.
I understand that the Romney camp was downplaying the importance of yesterday's results, but others might disagree with that.
No, there were no delegates last night. Colorado and Minnesota were things known as non-binding caucuses. They don't actually award their delegates until April.
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To a degree, but it was an even worse night for Newt.
First of all, who cares about Newt? He's been cooked for a while (it's inexplicable how he was even in it).

Second, it wasn't a bad night "to a degree" - it was pretty awful and embarrassing. What's the spending advantage that Romney has? 30 million? And it is very obvious, as Irvine already stated that the base HATES Mitt. Can't stand him.

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According to a new PPP poll, over the last 6 months % of Democrats 'very excited' to vote this fall has risen from 48% to 58%.
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Rick Perry has (unfortunately) resurfaced. Oooh, reloaded his mags. Look out world.



During an interview with Fox News earlier Monday, Perry acknowledged, "looking back now, we would have gotten into this race substantially sooner."

"I haven't left the fight," he told the network, "I just went home and rearmed and reloaded my mags, and I'm going to be fighting on a different front."
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During an interview with Fox News earlier Monday, Perry acknowledged, "looking back now, we would have gotten into this race substantially sooner."
Riiiiight, that was the problem...
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I think that's the first thing Trump has said that I agree with. I just can't even imagine Santorum as (God forbid) POTUS. It's literally a scary thought. Scarier to me than Gingrich, if I had Rick Perry's reloaded mags to my head and had to choose. Santorum and Gingrich, now that would be a tough do, marry, or kill.



Donald Trump sits down with CNN anchor Ashleigh Banfield to discuss GOP candidates for president as well as what position he would want in Mitt Romney’s cabinet.

Trump says, “Rick Santorum was a sitting senator who in re-election lost by 19 points, to my knowledge the most in the history of this country for a sitting senator to lose by 19 points. It’s unheard of. Then he goes out and says oh ‘okay’ I just lost by the biggest margin in history and now I’m going to run for president. Tell me, how does that work? ... That’s like me saying I just failed a test. Now I’m going to apply for admission to the Wharton School of Finance. Okay? He just failed a test.... And now he’s going to run for president. So, I don’t get Rick Santorum. I don’t get that whole thing.”
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First of all, who cares about Newt? He's been cooked for a while (it's inexplicable how he was even in it).

Second, it wasn't a bad night "to a degree" - it was pretty awful and embarrassing. What's the spending advantage that Romney has? 30 million? And it is very obvious, as Irvine already stated that the base HATES Mitt. Can't stand him.
How can you say Newt is irrelevant? As long as he keeps raising money, attacking Romney and vowing to go to the convention, he's relevant.

Again, they were all non-binding caucuses, the delegate count is unchanged, and Romney hardly spent any money in those states. Go back and look at some of the exit polls of the states that have voted so far. Romney wins self-described conservatives and Tea Partiers in some of those states.

If you're thinking Romney is going to sweep every remaining state, you're wrong. As a supporter of his, I'd personally rather have his main opponent be Santorum than Gingrich.
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so it's still falling, then?

thanks.
Yeah, like the US's credit rating under Obama:

S&P Threatens US With Another Downgrade In As Little As 6 Months | ZeroHedge
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switching the subject now?
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