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Old 01-27-2012, 12:05 AM   #676
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Don't take my word for it. Just ask this ex-sixties college radical.



oh, right. the book seller. he wants you to buy things from him. he knows you think that his "ex-sixties college radical" former identity makes him somehow more credible, like he's reporting from behind enemy lines, he knows how we think, etc.

but, really, he just wants you to buy books.
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Don't take my word for it. Just ask this ex-sixties college radical.
Perhaps the desire to open one's mind to other viewpoints and trying to understand where another person is coming from just lends itself more easily to liberalism than conservatism? Open minds and ears being essential to the broad college education and its life experience potential that we place a lot of stock in when talking about post-secondary education.

Notice this book is sold to you using fear and distrust as selling points right on the cover.
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Don't take my word for it. Just ask this ex-sixties college radical.

Do you fall for this shit EVERY time?
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the GOP should really take all their scrabble tiles, toss 'em back in the bag, and grab new ones.
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Not that this will dramatically affect the outcome of the primaries, but the Washington Post ran some fairly damning comments today from former employees of Ron Paul's newsletters company (Ron Paul & Associates) concerning Paul's repeated claims that he had no idea what was in those newsletters.
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The Republican presidential candidate has denied writing inflammatory passages in the pamphlets from the 1990s and said recently that he did not read them at the time or for years afterward. Numerous colleagues said he does not hold racist views. But people close to Paul’s operations said he was deeply involved in the company that produced the newsletters, Ron Paul & Associates, and closely monitored its operations, signing off on articles and speaking to staff members virtually every day.

“It was his newsletter, and it was under his name, so he always got to see the final product...He would proof it,’’ said Renae Hathway, a former secretary in Paul’s company and a supporter of the Texas congressman.

...The newsletters, which were launched in the mid-1980s and bore such names as the Ron Paul Survival Report, were produced by a company Paul dissolved in 2001. The company shared offices with his campaigns and foundation at various points, according to those familiar with the operation. Public records show Paul’s wife and daughter were officers of the newsletter company and foundation; his daughter also served as his campaign treasurer.

Jesse Benton, a presidential campaign spokesman, said that the accounts of Paul’s involvement were untrue and that Paul was practicing medicine full time when “the offensive material appeared under his name.” Paul “abhors it, rejects it and has taken responsibility for it as he should have better policed the work being done under his masthead,” Benton said. He did not comment on Paul’s business strategy.

...A person involved in Paul’s businesses, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid criticizing a former employer, said Paul and his associates decided in the late 1980s to try to increase sales by making the newsletters more provocative. They discussed adding controversial material, including racial statements, to help the business, the person said. “It was playing on a growing racial tension, economic tension, fear of government,’’ said the person, who supports Paul’s economic policies but is not backing him for president. “I’m not saying Ron believed this stuff. It was good copy. Ron Paul is a shrewd businessman.’’

The articles included racial, anti-Semitic and anti-gay content. They claimed, for example, that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. “seduced underage girls and boys’’; they ridiculed black activists by suggesting that New York be named “Zooville” or “Lazyopolis”; and they said the 1992 Los Angeles riots ended “when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.’’ The June 1990 edition of the Ron Paul Political Report included the statement: “Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.”

...Ed Crane, the longtime president of the libertarian Cato Institute, said he met Paul for lunch during this period, and the two men discussed direct-mail solicitations, which Paul was sending out to interest people in his newsletters. They agreed that “people who have extreme views” are more likely than others to respond. Crane said Paul reported getting his best response when he used a mailing list from the now-defunct newspaper Spotlight, which was widely considered anti-Semitic and racist.

Benton, Paul’s spokesman, said that Crane’s account “sounds odd” and that Paul did not recall the conversation.

At the time, Paul’s investment letter was languishing. According to the person involved with his businesses, Paul and others hit upon a solution: to “morph” the content to capitalize on a growing fear among some on the political right about the nation’s changing demographics and threats to economic liberty. The investment letter became the Ron Paul Survival Report—a name designed to intrigue readers, the company secretary said. It cost subscribers about $100 a year. The tone of that and other Paul publications changed, becoming increasingly controversial. In 1992, for example, the Ron Paul Political Report defended chess champion Bobby Fischer, who became known as an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier, for his stance on “Jewish questions.’’

...Paul “had to walk a very fine line,’’ said Eric Dondero Rittberg, a former longtime Paul aide who says Paul allowed the controversial material in his newsletter as a way to make money. Dondero Rittberg said he witnessed Paul proofing, editing and signing off on his newsletters in the mid-1990s. “The real big money came from some of that racially tinged stuff, but he also had to keep his libertarian supporters, and they weren’t at all comfortable with that,’’ he said. Dondero Rittberg is no longer a Paul supporter, and officials with Paul’s presidential campaign have said he was fired. Dondero Rittberg disputed that, saying he resigned in 2003 because he opposed Paul’s views on Iraq.

...In 1996, as Paul ran for Congress again, his business success turned into a potential political liability when his newsletters surfaced in the Texas media. Paul was quoted in the Dallas Morning News that year as defending a newsletter line from 1992 that said 95% of black men in the District are “semi-criminal or entirely criminal” and that black teenagers can be “unbelievably fleet of foot.” “If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,” the newspaper quoted Paul as saying.
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All parties agree that Ron Paul is not, personally, racist and that he didn't write the passages. This is comforting. I am not an anti-Semite. But give me a check to tell Harlem the Jews invented AIDS, and I'll do it.

As I've said before, we all must make our calculus in supporting a candidate or even claiming he is "good" for the debate. But it must be an honest calculus. If you believe that a character who would conspire to profit off of white supremacy, anti-gay bigotry, and anti-Semitism is the best vehicle for convincing the country to end the drug war, to end our romance with interventionism, to encourage serious scrutiny of state violence, at every level, then you should be honest enough to defend that proposition.
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Yeeeeeeeah, I couldn't defend that kind of a position, either. To take money from people who want to spew shit like this:

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The articles included racial, anti-Semitic and anti-gay content. They claimed, for example, that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. “seduced underage girls and boys’’; they ridiculed black activists by suggesting that New York be named “Zooville” or “Lazyopolis”; and they said the 1992 Los Angeles riots ended “when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.’’ The June 1990 edition of the Ron Paul Political Report included the statement: “Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.”
would mean you'd have to have no conscience whatsoever. There's plenty of people out there, politicians or no, that you could recruit to properly deal with the drug/war issues we face who don't have ties to such despicable beliefs like those mentioned in the papers.
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Don't take my word for it. Just ask this ex-sixties college radical.
i am in a class taught by one of the guys on his dangerous professors list. great class. horowitz is a fuckhead.
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i am in a class taught by one of the guys on his dangerous professors list.
I rest my case.
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Don't think this will be appreciated here, but you should know this story about Mitt:

On Mitt's character....


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Sometimes, this facet of Romney’s personality isn’t so subtle. In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared. She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was. Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay’s daughter. Romney set up a command center at the LaGuardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search. He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York, and asked them to help find his friend’s missing daughter. Romney’s accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper. Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could – prostitutes, drug addicts – anyone.

That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her. As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose. Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney’s former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter’s life, saying, “It was the most amazing thing, and I’ll never forget this to the day I die.”

So, here’s my epiphany: Mitt Romney simply can’t help himself. He sees a problem, and his mind immediately sets to work solving it, sometimes consciously, and sometimes not-so-consciously. He doesn’t do it for self-aggrandizement, or for personal gain. He does it because that’s just how he’s wired.

Many people are unaware of the fact that when Romney was asked by his old employer, Bill Bain, to come back to Bain & Company as CEO to rescue the firm from bankruptcy, Romney left Bain Capital to work at Bain & Company for an annual salary of one dollar. When Romney went to the rescue of the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, he accepted no salary for three years, and wouldn’t use an expense account. He also accepted no salary as Governor of Massachusetts.

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I rest my case.
Yep, because we all know that one-off rants after hearing a bad story one day automatically reveal your general worldview.

I've said I hated people after hearing really horrific stories of people hurting or killing others. So I guess I must start preparing my anti-social cave to live in, huh?

I really hope you are just yanking people's chains, because if you're not, I feel very sorry for you.
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Jon Stewart On Newt’s Moon Base: He Wants To Leave The Earth ‘For A Younger Planet’ | Mediaite

"Stewart then played a clip of Gingrich jokingly suggesting he’d make it a state, which flummoxed Stewart, but soon he had it all figured out.

“I see what’s going on here, this isn’t about making new states. Newt Gingrich did that global warming ad with Nancy Pelosi realizing that the Earth is very sick–and now he wants to leave it for a younger planet!”
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Romney had a pretty good debate tonight. Newt not so much. I'd expect Romney's slight lead in Florida to increase, he'll win on Tuesday, and it should be the beginning of the end as we head into Romney-friendly February.
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Rick Santorum (aka "The profoundly stupid person") was sharp as a tack tonight. Some of the best answers I've heard in any debate these past few months. His gain will most likely insure a Romney victory on Tuesday as he was much improved tonight as well.

No one hurt themselves but the bickering over who said what in which ad is tiresome.
I thought Romney had a great debate the other night, he bitch slapped Newt a few times which is always a good thing. And the look on Newt's face was priceless, as he clearly didn't see that coming. Also interesting was how Newt reacted to when the audience cheered for Romney and booed Newt, i thought he was going to throw another one of his tantrums.

Most of the Mitt vs. Newt moments were clearly in Romney's favor, the body language of the two candidates was very telling as well. Newt mostly stared at the ground or off into space when attacking Mitt, whereas Romney would turn and face Newt and attempt to look him in the eyes while addressing him. Perhaps Newt was too busy staring off into space, wishing he was on that moon colony.

Santorum sounded like a whiny bitch early in the debate when he appeared to get angry at the Newt and Romney bickering. Then he had some good moments later on and put Romney on the spot over health care. Personally i don't like Santorum, but im glad he's still in the race at this point because that possibly helps Romney.

Ive really come around to appreciate Ron Paul. My take is he is the most transparent of the men up on the stage. I don't agree with all of his positions but he's the "funny old guy" of the group who has nothing to lose but you know he wont win anything either. I suspect he's only hanging around because he believes in his message, and his supporters do as well, and he wants that message to get out to as many people as he can.
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Also interesting was how Newt reacted to when the audience cheered for Romney and booed Newt, i thought he was going to throw another one of his tantrums.
Exactly. Someone on another site I visit occasionally said something like "So apparently Gingrich is only pleased if: A) the audience is allowed to make noise, and B) the audience's cheering has to favor Newt. If either of those things don't happen, then there's some sort of unfair bias against him."
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