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Old 01-12-2012, 04:53 PM   #361
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My favourite was the mobile chemical labs. They had piping or hoses attached! They moved around a lot! Guys in full body protective clothing operated them! (They're called fire trucks, Colin).


it could happen.

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I'm just trying to figure out the worldview of someone who thinks it is NOT okay to increase the debt to try and prevent rapes, oppression and murder, but thinks it IS okay to increase the debt for endless funding of green energy, education, and pet projects of all sizes with little discussion, oversight or accountability.


there are different ways to tackle different problems.

discussion, oversight, and accountability are all good things.
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I'm just trying to figure out the worldview of someone who thinks it is NOT okay to increase the debt to try and prevent rapes, oppression and murder, but thinks it IS okay to increase the debt for endless funding of green energy, education, and pet projects of all sizes with little discussion, oversight or accountability.
Absolute bullshit.

US foreign policy decisions like intervention, invasion or occupation are made to shape and influence global power and energy concerns. Why did the U.S. participate in action against Libya but not countless other atrocities in 2011?

You can't be this naive just to try and support a flimsy point about poor people in the US and the government debt.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:25 PM   #364
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I'm just trying to figure out the worldview of someone who thinks it is NOT okay to increase the debt to try and prevent rapes, oppression and murder, but thinks it IS okay to increase the debt for endless funding of green energy, education, and pet projects of all sizes with little discussion, oversight or accountability.
Alinsky Beck has taught you well my friend.
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On Thursday, Senator John McCain sat down with Fox News’ Megyn Kelly to discuss the attacks and accusations being lobbed against Mitt Romney, the candidate he has endorsed, and Bain Capital.

McCain criticized Newt Gingrich for disparaging Romney’s time at Bain. “I think that Romney has a basis of support in South Carolina that I think is going to carry him on,” said McCain. “and, in all due respect to Newt Gingrich especially, this is a desperate act. These are desperate times for the Gingrich campaign.”

McCain then discussed what he sees as the alternative to the way Bain does business: Communism.

Keep everybody in business, keep every industry no matter how bad it is. And that’s what communism is, and unfortunately it doesn’t work.

And, look, nobody feels worse than someone who is involved in it when you have to lay people off. But the fact is that there are so many times when you have to improve, you have to cut back, you have to do things.



From NYTimes (January 28, 2008):

Mr. McCain also went after Mr. Romney for his work as head of Bain Capital, a leveraged-buyout firm. “As head of his investment company he presided over the acquisition of companies that laid off thousands of workers.”




Gingrich IS desperate-but that's still funny.
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Given McCain's age and history these are not good signs.
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this in not about the nominations

but this seems to have broaden into partisan arguments

either way, this should generate some good talking points to counter Buffets call for raising my taxes:

Rand Paul returns $500K in office budget to Treasury - POLITICO.com
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either way, this should generate some good talking points to counter Buffets call for raising my taxes:

Rand Paul returns $500K in office budget to Treasury - POLITICO.com
What exactly is the connection here?


This doesn't say much except that Paul didn't spend 16% of his budget. That's commendable and everything, but what does it say about how well he performed? That wasn't in the article. Did he accomplish anything with the other 84% of his budget?

If every Senator turned in this much where would we be?
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Haven't they been throughout American history?
Are you actually serious?
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What the fucccccck are you two talking about?????
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Absolute bullshit.
Maybe there's good reason(s) to focus on the topic at hand and give the Iraq war a bit of a rest.
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Careful with all this Iraq talk fellas. . .Keep it up and it could attract a certain Mole. Someone could get Stung. . . .



Seriously though, I think it's important to acknowledge that there is an awful lot of waste that could be trimmed in our government. I feel like too many people, including a lot of us in this forum, are unwilling to concede that the other side might have some valid points.
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ok, back on topic.

how is Romney going to convince voters that he should be president because he made a quarter of a billion dollars by firing people and thinks that poor people simply envy him and his success?

discuss.
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ok, back on topic.

how is Romney going to convince voters that he should be president because he made a quarter of a billion dollars by firing people and thinks that poor people simply envy him and his success?

discuss.
How did FDR earn his tens of millions of dollars? JFK? Not through work, that's for sure. Yet how did they manage to convince regular people to vote for them in the middle of an economic downturn?

Whatever strategy Romney's using, it isn't hurting. Look at the most recent head-to-head polls in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, heck- even Michigan. Romney is ahead.
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How did FDR earn his tens of millions of dollars? JFK? Not through work, that's for sure. Yet how did they manage to convince regular people to vote for them in the middle of an economic downturn?

Whatever strategy Romney's using, it isn't hurting. Look at the most recent head-to-head polls in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, heck- even Michigan. Romney is ahead.


n00t seems to think it's going to work. his ads about Bain are kind of brutal.

FDR and JFK's money came through family. Mitt earned his $250m by his own self.
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ok, back on topic.

how is Romney going to convince voters that he should be president because he made a quarter of a billion dollars by firing people and thinks that poor people simply envy him and his success?

discuss.
I'm not sure most people are paying that close attention. They should have heard the way Joe Scarborough summed up what Romney, on Lawrence O'Donnells show tonight, does for a living.
" He has to admit to the fact that Bain Capital doesn't do anything for job creation, at all!! It's all about profit, period. This is a capitalist society and that is what Bain did/does."
(so vote for me, lol)

Like you said Irvine, The problem with Mitt is he truly feels that everyone who doesn't subscribe to his ruthless capitalist concept just "envious".
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