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Old 01-10-2012, 06:23 PM   #271
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Most Christians aren't into all the rapture business. That's a very 'US evangelical' thing. But Catholics still have it all coming to a big Michael Bay finale.
I too was raised Catholic and we do not ever talk about Revelations.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:46 PM   #272
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So, Mitt Romney, who has staked it all on New Hampshire and parked his ass up there for the last 3 years can't even convince 4 our of 10 GOP primary voters to vote for him in a field with at least 3 sheer lunatics?

Wow.
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So, Mitt Romney, who has staked it all on New Hampshire and parked his ass up there for the last 3 years can't even convince 4 our of 10 GOP primary voters to vote for him in a field with at least 3 sheer lunatics?

Wow.
Guess there are some smart people in NH It is a unique place-live free or die.

The last three US Presidents finished second in the NH primary. Just saying.
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So, Mitt Romney, who has staked it all on New Hampshire and parked his ass up there for the last 3 years can't even convince 4 our of 10 GOP primary voters to vote for him in a field with at least 3 sheer lunatics?

Wow.

If Romney is the nominee, he wins New Hampshire. That's all that matters.

And let's not forget that independents can vote in NH, and they accounted for about 40% of the vote, so it's hard to get a precise grip on who exactly the affiliated Republicans went for and in what numbers. But we do know via the exit polls that Romney won huge on issues like the economy and electability.
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And let's not forget that independents can vote in NH, and they accounted for about 40% of the vote, so it's hard to get a precise grip on who exactly the affiliated Republicans went for and in what numbers.
But isn't that a bad thing for him? I mean isn't this election supposed to be about individuals running away from Barack Obama? If that is the case, they certainly don't seem to be rushing into the arms of Romney.

I genuinely don't understand why Romney isn't winning these primaries by 20, 30 points.
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Wow, that's quite a stretch to go from Kerry's statement to then accusing him of pandering to the crazies. Here's how I see it: Kerry went to war. Bush, on the other hand, chose (and was granted an unusually quick acceptance despite low scores) an option that would 1)allow him to avoid being drafted into the war and 2)fulfill his military duty in the States. Not that I blame him for seeking that option, mind you - but then I don't have any aspirations to be president.

Was Kerry's "I'm reporting for duty" a swipe at Bush? Sure, but I don't think he had to have believed the Rather report to make it.
im sure this was already discussed at length in here 8 years ago, but its worth mentioning

George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In November Bush began flight training at Moody Air Force Base, Georgia. In December 1969, he began further training on the F-102 in Houston at the 147th's Combat Crew Training School, soloing in March 1970 and graduating in June, fulfilling his active-duty commitment.[1] He performed Guard duty as an F-102 pilot through April 1972, logging a total of 336 flight hours[2] and was promoted once during his service, to First Lieutenant.[3]

In November 1970, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, commander of the 111th Fighter Squadron, recommended that Bush be promoted to First Lieutenant, calling him "a dynamic outstanding young officer" who stood out as "a top notch fighter interceptor pilot." He said that "Lt. Bush's skills far exceed his contemporaries," and that "he is a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership. Lt. Bush is also a good follower with outstanding disciplinary traits and an impeccable military bearing."[4]

Air National Guard members could volunteer for active duty service with the Air Force in a program called Palace Alert, which deployed F-102 pilots to Europe and Southeast Asia, including Vietnam and Thailand. According to three pilots from Bush's squadron, Bush inquired about this program but was advised by the base commander that he did not have the necessary experience (500 hours) at the time and that the F-102 would soon be retired.[1][5]
Bush was advised against volunteering for service in SEA by the base commander because he lacked the required flight hours plus his aircraft was being retired. I dont blame him for not volunteering for SEA and taking the advice of his base commander. Also i respect Kerry's service, as i do John McCain's as well.

As for my previous comment about "Kerry pandering to crazies", obviously i dont believe that every Kerry supporter or Democrat was a crazy. There were a few though.

Let me just say this much, there are crazies on both sides. The left had Michael Moore's documentary, the Bush AWOL theories and then there were 911 truthers. Not even sure what you call the truthers, obviously not republicans but im sure the democrats dont really claim them either.

The GOP has its fringe as well, the "birthers" and the wingnuts who belive Obama is a marxist, socialist, or even a muslim, etc. The other side of the crazy coin. Can we all agree that both fringe elements are nuts?
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I genuinely don't understand why Romney isn't winning these primaries by 20, 30 points.
Because the right wing base is half nuts. The base, mind you, not the moderates or fence sitters. Eventually they will come around to him when they realize he is the only one who could possibly beat Obama in the general election.
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Romney does about as expected. there seems to be little excitement anywhere.
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The GOP has its fringe as well, the "birthers" and the wingnuts who belive Obama is a marxist, socialist, or even a muslim, etc. The other side of the crazy coin. Can we all agree that both fringe elements are nuts?

can we also agree that the "right fringe" has much, much more power over the GOP than the "left fringe" has over the Democrats? and that we really can't equivocate between the two?
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can we also agree that the "right fringe" has much, much more power over the GOP than the "left fringe" has over the Democrats?
i will agree to this first part.

I am however non-committal to the second part.
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I'm baffled that you think these are equivalents. Michael Moore and AWOL theories I would say are more equivalent to Hannity or Rush. I just don't see an equivalent on the left that equals the birthers/ Obama is a Muslim socialist types, at least not one that mainstream candidates are catering to.
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Sitting here having just watched Ron Paul speak, As a liberal, I really hope he runs as a Libertarian in the general election. I know it's not at all likely because of Rand Paul, but I still hope it happens. He could completely screw Romney(or whoever) just by being on the ballot in November.
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One exit poll tidbit that caught my eye re:Santorum, only 8% of the Catholic voters went for him (more than a third of these voters were Catholic); he did three times as well with evangelicals, but still not quite as well as Romney.

Unsurprisingly Paul did the best with 18-to-29-year-olds (47%); they were only 12% of these voters though.
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Sounds like turnout was very low as well.
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