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Old 09-28-2011, 05:21 PM   #106
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Obama still wins in head-to-head match ups against all these candidates. not by a lot, but he does win.
Barely, yes. RCP has Romney beating him in VA and FL, for example. In other swing states, we'll have to see how low his approval numbers go. Romney puts states in play that no other GOP candidate does.

I think there's no doubt that Romney/Rubio has to be their biggest fear. I bet the oppo research has already begun on Rubio.
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I don't see Obama and his team using those kind of tactics to hold on to power.

that's true. he usually lets his opponents self-destruct.
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Florida is now expected to hold its presidential primary on the last day in January 2012, a move likely to throw the carefully arranged Republican nominating calendar into disarray and jumpstart the nominating process a month earlier than party leaders had hoped. If that happens, it would almost certainly force the traditional early states of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada to leapfrog Florida and move their primaries and caucuses into early- to mid-January.

Florida's move would directly violate RNC rules that forbid any state other than [those] first four "carve-out" states from holding a primary before March 6. States that ignore the RNC rules are subject to losing half of their delegates--party representatives who ultimately choose the nominee--to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida, next August.


RNC Chairman Reince Priebus and other GOP officials have been aggressively lobbying Florida Gov. Rick Scott and state legislative leaders to move the primary back to February 21 in a last-ditch effort to protect the integrity of the nominating calendar, sources told CNN. Even under the February 21 scenario, Florida would still lose half of its delegates. But the proposal would allow Florida to go fifth on the calendar--a coveted position that the state held in 2008 and hopes to hold again in 2012. A February 21 contest for Florida would also protect the first four states from having to move their contests to January. But members of the Florida commission remain wary of states like Colorado, Georgia and Missouri, which are threatening to hold primaries or caucuses before February 21.

"If Florida decides to go in January, they blow the RNC planned calendar wide open and we'll be back to campaigning over the holidays as Iowa and New Hampshire hold their presidential caucus and primary in early January," said Michigan National Committee member Saul Anuzis, who is on the RNC's presidential nominating schedule committee.
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GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain says black voters have been "brainwashed" into voting for liberals, which hurt his chances as a conservative seeking the White House.

Cain made his remarks in an interview with CNN, to air later tonight.

"African Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," Cain says, according to quotes posted on CNN's PoliticalTicker blog.

"I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it's just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple."
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Says the man who is against appointing Muslims...
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he would not appoint a white Muslim or a black Muslim, nothing racist about that

why appoint an anti-American?

This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principals
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GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain says black voters have been "brainwashed" into voting for liberals, which hurt his chances as a conservative seeking the White House.

Cain made his remarks in an interview with CNN, to air later tonight.

"African Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view," Cain says, according to quotes posted on CNN's PoliticalTicker blog.

"I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it's just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple."
Now is saying African-Americans are brainwashed to vote for liberals worse than saying black conservatives have Stockholm Syndrome?
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The speech Chris Christie gave at the Reagan Library last night was titled: (liberals assume the position)



“Real American Exceptionalism.”

This was my favorite bit:

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In 2004, Illinois State Senator Barack Obama gave us a window into his vision for American leadership. He said, “Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us — the spin masters, the negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of ‘anything goes.’ Well, I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America. There is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America — there’s the United States of America.”Now, seven years later, President Obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve re-election. This is not a leadership style, this is a re-election strategy. Telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others. Trying to cynically convince those who are suffering that the American economic pie is no longer a growing one that can provide more prosperity for all who work hard. Insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American Dream. That may turn out to be a good re-election strategy for President Obama, but is a demoralizing message for America. What happened to State Senator Obama? When did he decide to become one of the “dividers” he spoke of so eloquently in 2004?
A withering critique of the rhetoric of President Obama.
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America can't provide prosperity simply because you work hard. Why is that a divisive statement? That's reality.
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The speech Chris Christie gave at the Reagan Library last night was titled: (liberals assume the position)


funny -- i assumed you were deeply offended by the Christie speech?

after all, he kept saying that "exceptionalism" was something we have to earn, that it isn't our birthright, that it's proved through our actions as a nation, and not something just automatically are because we are American.

so that's totally opposite to your posts on the topic.

can you imagine your outrage had Obama said that we are not exceptional and that such exceptionalism must be earned? indeed!



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A withering critique of the rhetoric of President Obama.
nah. just some rhetorical judo with the notion of class warfare. kind of like how "playing the race card" is worse than actual racism.
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I think there's no doubt that Romney/Rubio has to be their biggest fear. I bet the oppo research has already begun on Rubio.

agreed on both counts.

so why is the GOP desperately seeking someone, anyone, other than Romney?
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Now is saying African-Americans are brainwashed to vote for liberals worse than saying black conservatives have Stockholm Syndrome?
Two words.

First is a well-known tv series about a doctor

Second is....you know.
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The speech Chris Christie gave at the Reagan Library last night was titled: (liberals assume the position)



“Real American Exceptionalism.”

This was my favorite bit:



A withering critique of the rhetoric of President Obama.
Lol, dude. no, but seriously.

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Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'
January 17, 2001

WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

President-elect Bush vows that "together, we can put the triumphs of the recent past behind us."
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

Bush swore to do "everything in [his] power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.

During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf War-level armed conflict in the next four years.

"You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what is the point of even having a military?"

On the economic side, Bush vowed to bring back economic stagnation by implementing substantial tax cuts, which would lead to a recession, which would necessitate a tax hike, which would lead to a drop in consumer spending, which would lead to layoffs, which would deepen the recession even further.

Wall Street responded strongly to the Bush speech, with the Dow Jones industrial fluctuating wildly before closing at an 18-month low. The NASDAQ composite index, rattled by a gloomy outlook for tech stocks in 2001, also fell sharply, losing 4.4 percent of its total value between 3 p.m. and the closing bell.

Asked for comment about the cooling technology sector, Bush said: "That's hardly my area of expertise."

Turning to the subject of the environment, Bush said he will do whatever it takes to undo the tremendous damage not done by the Clinton Administration to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He assured citizens that he will follow through on his campaign promise to open the 1.5 million acre refuge's coastal plain to oil drilling. As a sign of his commitment to bringing about a change in the environment, he pointed to his choice of Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior. Norton, Bush noted, has "extensive experience" fighting environmental causes, working as a lobbyist for lead-paint manufacturers and as an attorney for loggers and miners, in addition to suing the EPA to overturn clean-air standards.

Bush had equally high praise for Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, whom he praised as "a tireless champion in the battle to protect a woman's right to give birth."

"Soon, with John Ashcroft's help, we will move out of the Dark Ages and into a more enlightened time when a woman will be free to think long and hard before trying to fight her way past throngs of protesters blocking her entrance to an abortion clinic," Bush said. "We as a nation can look forward to lots and lots of babies."

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Continued Bush: "John Ashcroft will be invaluable in healing the terrible wedge President Clinton drove between church and state."

The speech was met with overwhelming approval from Republican leaders.

"Finally, the horrific misrule of the Democrats has been brought to a close," House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert (R-IL) told reporters. "Under Bush, we can all look forward to military aggression, deregulation of dangerous, greedy industries, and the defunding of vital domestic social-service programs upon which millions depend. Mercifully, we can now say goodbye to the awful nightmare that was Clinton's America."

"For years, I tirelessly preached the message that Clinton must be stopped," conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh said. "And yet, in 1996, the American public failed to heed my urgent warnings, re-electing Clinton despite the fact that the nation was prosperous and at peace under his regime. But now, thank God, that's all done with. Once again, we will enjoy mounting debt, jingoism, nuclear paranoia, mass deficit, and a massive military build-up."

An overwhelming 49.9 percent of Americans responded enthusiastically to the Bush speech.

"After eight years of relatively sane fiscal policy under the Democrats, we have reached a point where, just a few weeks ago, President Clinton said that the national debt could be paid off by as early as 2012," Rahway, NJ, machinist and father of three Bud Crandall said. "That's not the kind of world I want my children to grow up in."

"You have no idea what it's like to be black and enfranchised," said Marlon Hastings, one of thousands of Miami-Dade County residents whose votes were not counted in the 2000 presidential election. "George W. Bush understands the pain of enfranchisement, and ever since Election Day, he has fought tirelessly to make sure it never happens to my people again."

Bush concluded his speech on a note of healing and redemption.

"We as a people must stand united, banding together to tear this nation in two," Bush said. "Much work lies ahead of us: The gap between the rich and the poor may be wide, be there's much more widening left to do. We must squander our nation's hard-won budget surplus on tax breaks for the wealthiest 15 percent. And, on the foreign front, we must find an enemy and defeat it."

"The insanity is over," Bush said. "After a long, dark night of peace and stability, the sun is finally rising again over America. We look forward to a bright new dawn not seen since the glory days of my dad."
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The speech Chris Christie gave at the Reagan Library last night was titled: (liberals assume the position)



“Real American Exceptionalism.”

This was my favorite bit:



A withering critique of the rhetoric of President Obama.
You didn't read it all did you?


Have you now gotten over the fact that he called you crazy and ignorant?
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so why is the GOP desperately seeking someone, anyone, other than Romney?
Honestly, I wish I knew. I haven't heard many reasons that I think are valid other than Romneycare, which I think is relatively weak. Perry's got way more flaws.
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