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Old 09-27-2011, 02:24 PM   #91
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best part is when he tells people asking about Sharia Law to, basically, STFU because it's "crap" and they're "crazy."
That's hugely impressive, on several fronts. The bullshit 'Sharia Law' scaremongering is surely a horse that's long bolted though. If he runs, and gets challenged on it, there's probably nothing he could do about it. To get to the real/reasonable/sensible on it, you have to wind people back past all of the politicians and commentators who have been running it up as an easy/unchallenged pet project for so long, and that ignorance and influence unfortunately seems to extend well beyond just the crazies.
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did somebody die?
Pre-read your teleprompter script.
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That's hugely impressive, on several fronts. The bullshit 'Sharia Law' scaremongering is surely a horse that's long bolted though. If he runs, and gets challenged on it, there's probably nothing he could do about it. To get to the real/reasonable/sensible on it, you have to wind people back past all of the politicians and commentators who have been running it up as an easy/unchallenged pet project for so long, and that ignorance and influence unfortunately seems to extend well beyond just the crazies.


it will be interesting if the race becomes Wall Street Money vs. Tea Party Crazies. as much as money does talk, you still have to get bodies to the voting booth, and those bodies who vote in the GOP primaries are usually at church on Sunday. there's a real conflict there, and the central paradox of the GOP, and one that W Bush was rather deftly able to manage well enough to eek out one victory in 2004 (and be handed another in 2000).
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seems he's not running anymore. so sayeth Fox News. oh well.
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Where is the Mitch Daniels drum corps?


Bangin' away but to no avail.
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Marco Rubio to pen autobiography - St. Petersburg Times

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Marco Rubio, the West-Miami Republican tea party favorite, is about to write about his life story, his political thoughts and the story of his improbable victory last year in the Senate race vs. former Gov. Charlie Crist.

"I think we have something to say," said Rubio in what might be the biggest understatement from one of the most eloquent elected conservatives.
Junior senator, autobiography... forget about waiting for 2016 this man is eminently qualified to be president today.

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Bangin' away but to no avail.
He'd be smart to keep his powder dry and come out in force in 2016 at this point. A midwestern governor with a track record could look very attractive in 2016, especially against Hillary.
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Mittens is the sacrificial lamb for 2012.

I can't see Hillary being up for 2016 ... but one never knows.

The smart $$$ is on Cuomo.
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Should Christie run?

Can he get the nomination?

Can he beat Obama?


the answer is yes,

If you use the Obama metric

Is Christie ready to be president? - The Washington Post
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yes. (i'd loooooove to see him call out the other candidates the way he yells at teachers and regular NJ moms)

no.

yes.
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There's only two scenarios at the present state where I see Obama winning in 2012.

1. The economy makes some miraculous turn around.

2. The GOP chooses a canidate that divides the party so much that they just stay home.
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I believe there will be no decent recovery in 2012, even a small one would not save him

Perry would be Obama's best chance, I do think there is enough anti-Obama passion to get people to the polls to give the win to Romney

just like there was enough anti-Bush/Cheney feelings to get Hillary voters/ blue dog dems and independents to vote for (against GOP-status quo) Obama in 2008
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Obama still wins in head-to-head match ups against all these candidates. not by a lot, but he does win.

and this is before the campaign has begun and we've really gotten to know the GOP, whereas Obama is a known quantity.

i think Obama is in about as good a position as Bush was in 2004, which is to say not very good, but victory is entirely possible. all Bush had to do was beat Kerry. and don't forget: Obama won *big* in 2008. he could lose a lot of states and still prevail.

but who knows? we're well over a year away.
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Romney could pick-up independents and some disgruntled Dems, but he'll loose at least an equivalent number of Republicans to whoever the Libertarian nom is and to a different, more "Christian" independent candidate.

I like Obama's chances right now, mainly because of the Republican's lack of unity.
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Obama still wins in head-to-head match ups against all these candidates. not by a lot, but he does win.

and this is before the campaign has begun and we've really gotten to know the GOP, whereas Obama is a known quantity.

i think Obama is in about as good a position as Bush was in 2004, which is to say not very good, but victory is entirely possible. all Bush had to do was beat Kerry. and don't forget: Obama won *big* in 2008. he could lose a lot of states and still prevail.

but who knows? we're well over a year away.

Bush win in 2004 was pretty disgusting, they played those terror warnings like a violin, plus the swift boating of Kerry by someone that went AWOL,
again disgusting

I don't see Obama and his team using those kind of tactics to hold on to power.
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