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Old 12-15-2011, 04:08 PM   #871
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political movements come and go,
some have success, and some don't

I will say both Obama Nation 2008 and Tea Party 2010 were two of the more successful movements I have seen, compared to Ross Perot's 92 and 96 movements or even Nader's smaller movements, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow coalition movements is the 80s did lend support to the Democrats
I will also cite Human Rights movements aiding Clinton in 92 and 96.

Movements rise and fall,
in America only the two major parties seem to be pretty permanent, and that is a good thing. Looking at all these coalition Governments that collapse when a junior partner pulls out,
or worse yet, knuckle under to them, as we see in Israel with the crazies' hands on the steering wheel now.
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Go Cain!
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Cain dropped out

Did anyone see him singing Amazing Grace on the Barbara Walters special last night? I have to see if it's online somewhere.
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Not from Barbara but it was this same exact verse, that must be his go to. I love that song too. He's definitely a much better gospel singer than Tim Tebow.

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ooh he said zany

Gingrich too 'zany' for White House, says Romney

(CNN) - Mitt Romney escalated his criticism of Newt Gingrich's temperament Wednesday, calling the former House speaker "zany" in an interview with The New York Times.

"Zany is not what we need in a president," Romney said, two days after he blasted Gingrich for his "erratic outspokenness."

In his sit-down with the newspaper, Romney said Gingrich's behavior served him well on the campaign trail, but would be disastrous in the White House.

"Zany is great in a campaign. It's great on talk radio. It's great in print, it makes for fun reading," Romney said. "But in terms of a president, we need a leader, and a leader needs to be someone who can bring Americans together."

Romney said his own nature would be better suited for a commander-in-chief.

"A leader needs to be someone of sobriety and stability and patience and temperance, to think through issues, to be careful in the choice of words he or she might express, because the world listens. The president of the United States is the leader of the free world, and our current president has been an enormous failure," Romney said.
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I guess he didn't actually read the study



Rick Santorum blamed same-sex marriage for plummeting marriage rates, this morning, tweeting out this article about a new Pew marriage survey. The study found that “the number of married couples dropped a startling five percent between 2009 and 2010 and has declined by more than 20 percent since 1960.” Today, barely half of Americans over the age 18 are married. But Pew attributes the decline not to same-sex marriage — which would actually increase rates — but a combination of factors including: the social acceptance of cohabitation, a greater emphasis on higher education and career development, and the desire to develop financial independence before tying the knot.


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Rick Santorum blamed same-sex marriage for plummeting marriage rates, this morning, tweeting out this article about a new Pew marriage survey. The study found that “the number of married couples dropped a startling five percent between 2009 and 2010 and has declined by more than 20 percent since 1960.” Today, barely half of Americans over the age 18 are married. But Pew attributes the decline not to same-sex marriage — which would actually increase rates — but a combination of factors including: the social acceptance of cohabitation, a greater emphasis on higher education and career development, and the desire to develop financial independence before tying the knot.




boo hoo gays are ruining the sanctity of marriage and not people like Kim Kardashian, loveless marriages, quickie divorces, and being married by Elvis in a casino.
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It's a sad time when we dismiss the only candidate who is willing to speak honestly as "crazy old Dr. Paul".


he is the only Republican to speak to imperial overreach and criticize the military-industrial complex.

this is terrifying to where the GOP money comes from.
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Newt Gingrich told the Des Moines Register’s editorial board this morning that gay people have a “significant range of choice within a genetic pattern” and can choose to be straight just like someone can “choose to be celibate.” The former House speaker, who opposes same-sex marriage, explained that there is a “big difference between saying that you’re to have an acceptance of people’s lifestyles and saying that you’re now going to normalize that as a standard for the whole country”:

Q: Do you believe that people choose to be gay?

GINGRICH: I believe it’s a combination of genetics and environment. I think both are involved. I think people have many ranges of choices. Part of the question is, do you want a society which has a bias in one direction or another?

Q: So people can then choose one way or another?

GINGRICH: I think people have a significant range of choice within a genetic pattern. I don’t believe in genetic determinism and I don’t think there is any great evidence of genetic determinism. There are propensities. Are you more likely to do this or more likely to do that? But that doesn’t mean it’s definitional.

Q: So a person can then choose to be straight?

GINGRICH: Look, people choose to be celibate. People choose many things in life. You know, there is a bias in favor of non-celibacy. It’s part of how the species recreates. And yet there is a substantial amount of people who choose celibacy as a religious vocation or for other reasons.

Gingrich also reiterated that he would reinstate Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell if elected President and suggested that military commanders have been pressured to accept the policy change. “I think that it would be a career ending conversation,” he said. “I don’t think that in the military you would particularly want sexual behavior to be an overt issue.”
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he is the only Republican to speak to imperial overreach and criticize the military-industrial complex.

this is terrifying to where the GOP money comes from.
I like his foreign policy proposals, but his domestic policy ideas would destroy what's left of this economy.
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Q: So a person can then choose to be straight?

GINGRICH: Look, people choose to be celibate.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in ages. I wish Newt's parents had "chosen to be celibate."
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I like his foreign policy proposals, but his domestic policy ideas would destroy what's left of this economy.
I feel the exact opposite.
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I feel the exact opposite.
Please explain how putting us back on the gold standard will do anything but completely ruin the economy. I'm also not a big fan of rolling back stuff such as environmental regulations and leaving it all up to the states. Now if he were to win, I doubt he would get anywhere with Congress domestically and he would be far more successful foreign policy wise and protecting our civil liberties like rolling back stuff like the Patriot Act, and the detention shit.
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I'm also not a big fan of rolling back stuff such as environmental regulations and leaving it all up to the states.
I'm assuming you're not a big fan of the constitution either, then?
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Dear Newt Gingrich,
I recently saw you stand up in front of a group of people and allow some of the most
idiotic, unfounded, racist, and ignorant words pass your lips that I’ve ever heard
from a member of a group of the most unqualified presidential candidates America
has ever seen.
To have the audacity to say that poor kids, and let’s be clear that’s republican speak
for black and brown kids, “have no habits of working and nobody around them who
works” is not only an insult to me as black man who grew up in one of those “really
poor” neighborhoods you spoke of, but it’s an insult to my mother. And it’s an insult to
many other black, brown and white children, adults, and hard working parents(often single
parents) who get up every single day to try to provide a better life for their children in
poor neighborhoods.

As a child who grew up in Compton in the early 90′s, one of the most dangerous
neighborhoods in America at that time, I watched my mother work tirelessly, sometimes juggling multiple jobs to provide for myself and my sister. Day in and day out like many other parents in poor neighborhoods, she did what she had to do in order to provide for us. You know what that turned into Mr. Gingrich?
A son who received academic and athletic scholarship offers from three Ivy League schools
and countless other universities, a son with a college degree in Criminal Justice who
graduated with honors from every school he attended, and a daughter who not only
attended a Gifted and Talented Education high school, but is one year away from
completing a degree at UCLA.
This is not just the case for my family. I know I speak for many other hard working
black, brown, and poor white families who have the same experiences in the poor
neighborhoods you look down upon from your elitist 1% out of touch pedestal. To say that
an entire community “literally has no habit of showing up on Monday” or “they have no
habit of staying all day” I say that is a load of shit.
Millions of poor children watch their parents show up Monday and many of them
sometimes have to suffer from the fact that their parents have to stay at work ALL DAY.
And lastly, you suggest that to remedy this “problem” as you so blindly see it is to make
poor kids assistant janitors and pay them to clean the restrooms? Your solution is child
labor. Degrading young children by suggesting they clean toilets while painting all union workers as lazy leeches. It’s a shame they don’t have the work ethic of hard working Americans like Kim Kardashian who worked so hard in her sex tape before we crowned her a role model for young girls and showered her with money and adoration or Paris Hilton who was forced to clean so many toilets as a teen to learn “work ethic” before her parents handed over the millions.
This not only echoes the depth of your ignorance, but just how truly unqualified
you are to ever be president of this country. Your assumption that poor people have no
ingrained work ethic and “have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s
illegal” is not only dangerously ignorant but it proves you have no connection with the
true heart of this country.
I believe I speak for most if not all of “poor” America when I say Mr. Gingrich you have
no habit of performing, thinking or speaking in a manner that warrants becoming the
leader of the free world and the 45th president of these United States of America. You
represent a party of greedy, selfish, out of touch, wealth protecting, non tax paying,
destroyers of the middle class. You know nothing about us. But your words in your
speech in Des Moines told us everything about you.
Which is why I hope you win your party’s nomination. So that poor and impoverished
families can at least experience four more years of a man working diligently to help
them and the communities they call home that you have proven to know nothing about.
president number 44.
PS. You look like someone poured mashed potatoes into a suit

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