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Old 11-30-2011, 11:33 AM   #601
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:11 PM   #602
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Newest PPP poll out of Florida...

Newt Gingrich: 47 (10)
Mitt Romney: 17 (30)
Herman Cain: 15 (7)
Ron Paul: 5 (8)
Michele Bachmann: 4 (6)
Jon Huntsman: 3 (3)
Rick Perry: 2 (24)
Rick Santorum: 1 (2)
Gary Johnson: 0 (1)

Pretty remarkable Noot surge.
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Newt Gingrich: 47 (10)
Mitt Romney: 17 (30)



poor Mittens.
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for sometime now, I have considered Romney the foregone conclusion nominee.

at this point with the early primaries only weeks away, I would put Newt and Romney both at about 50/50

and Newt is on the up swing (insert Bob Dole Viagra joke here)

with that said, Obama can more easily beat Newt, the Good Old Boys in the GOP may yet pull this out, for Obama
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the smart GOP sat this one out -- though the economy gave them hope, they knew that Obama is still going to be tough to beat, especially now that the economy is showing promising signs of improvement (barring, of course, a Eurozone collapse) and though the unemployment rate will still be historically high, it will be moving in the right direction. nothing is a given, we're all too filled with PTSD to be sure of anything.

the GOP 2016 bench is deep, and better to throw up a Bob Dole now than lose a potential winner in 4 years.
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That Bachmann/Iran quote is fantastic..
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That Bachmann/Iran quote is fantastic..


indeed. but who needs facts when you've got a feeling in your gut?

WBush taught us that.
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the GOP 2016 bench is deep, and better to throw up a Bob Dole now than lose a potential winner in 4 years.
No doubt. If Obama wins in 2012, 2016 is going to be an epic election battle between 2 pretty awesome candidates.
(I pray that statement comes back to haunt me in a good, Dem way. )

I wonder when the GOP will look at their "Bob Dole" and realize they better get serious about their House and Senate races instead.
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It looks like the Republicans are doing the Democrat's dirty work for them. Here's the latest Huntsman campaign ad:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon2012H.../0/Y7kog1CjzcY
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Poor Mittens
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it does not matter

but a reasonable man could take Romney at his word,
based on the context of those questions and answers

example, Mass health care should be a modle for the nation?


Yes. >>>> each state should work out for themselves what they want. If the majority of the people of the State want a State - wide plan, that is what they shoud have. that is what happened in Mass.
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The key word being "reasonable" I don't see a lot of that today.
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um, wow. now, granted, no one really believes Rassmusssen because it's skewed conservative, but this is still remarkable:


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Election 2012: Republican Presidential Primary
National GOP Poll: Gingrich 38% Romney 17%

* National Poll: Gingrich 45% Obama 43%
* New Hampshire: Romney 34%, Gingrich 24%, Paul 14%, Huntsman 11%
* Gingrich Tells Protesters to Take A Bath, Get A Job: 43% Agree
* Election 2012: Generic Republican 48%, Obama 42%
* Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
* Iowa: Gingrich 32%, Romney 19%, Cain 13%

Thursday, December 01, 2011

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has surged to the largest national lead held by any candidate so far in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters finds Gingrich on top with 38% of the vote. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is a distant second at 17%. No other candidate reaches double-digits.

The national survey of 1,000 Likely Republican Primary Voters was conducted on November 30, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Election 2012: Republican Presidential Primary - Rasmussen Reports™

several blogs are pointing to Romney's disasterous Fox -- yes, Fox -- interview as having revealed that the Emperor Has No Clothes and that, outside of debates, he's kind of not very good. at least not in interviews.

i'd still think that it's Romney's race to lose, but he's certainly no longer inevitable.
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that is kind of what I posted yesterday

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at this point with the early primaries only weeks away, I would put Newt and Romney both at about 50/50

and Newt is on the up swing (insert Bob Dole Viagra joke here)
I did not need to see any polls

it's like mucical chairs, the music will stop
and Newt's ass is pretty close to the last open chair

what a great process
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that is kind of what I posted yesterday

I did not need to see any polls


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