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Old 11-10-2011, 04:44 PM   #466
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Poll: Cain and Romney Run Closely in 3 Key States - Washington Wire - WSJ

this is just odd

suggests Cain can win primaries,
if I were a Dem strategist I'd be all over the T V shows politely attacking him, saying things like, the GOP should quietly ask him to step down, etc.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:59 PM   #467
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I'd like to see women showing up at Cain campaign stops

holding up signs that say.

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CAIN 2012 !
We won't settle for less.

or something like that.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:13 PM   #468
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Lol im 16 and believe Romney is our best choice because hes honest and is not a stupid republican radical perry, bachman,Cain, (which i believe are all tea party members.. Hint hint ) are all idiots that would ruin this country
I like romney.
Btw lmao at perrys skrew up
Education...ahhh epa uhhhh annnnd whats that called again?
I call it being and idiot
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welcome new poster


don't let any whackos in here, discourage you from posting
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:21 PM   #470
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It's so weird how illogical people are when they're on the hunt for power...

1) It's pretty much impossible to win when the tide of the country (or at least its angriest voters) are moving in the opposite direction from your own party. Any Republican running for President in 2008 just seemed like a moron to me since Bush and his party had record low approval ratings. There's no way that deficit could be overcome. Kucinich would have eeked out a narrow victory over McCain.

2) If you're running in your party's primary and you noticeably hit a peak and then start plummeting down in the polling, it's over! Voters don't consider voting for a candidate en masse, back out, and then reallign with that candidate. Small fluctuations are a given, but not large ones. If you're somebody like Bacchman or Perry who were in the 20-30% polling range and then plummeted to single digits, you'd be wise to get out sooner than later. People fled from your camp for a reason. By this logic, Cain is pretty much doomed as well since these sexual allegations and his lack of adding anything new to the discussion since he came out with the 9-9-9 plan and will therefore lead to a drop.

The only non-Romney that should stay in the race is Gingrich. He has not had a peak and drop-off yet and therefore is the only one in the race that can presumably gain momentum and try and top Romney. People like Bachmann, Perry and Cain that continue to run only do so because they saw their name atop the polls and can't get the image of winning the nomination out of their heads. If any of those three had been wallowing in low digits for the entirety of their run, they'd probably have fled by this point.

Sure enough, this will be a two-pony race after Iowa and probably done not much longer after that. It will be the "John Kerry effect" again where winning the early primaries will steamroll everyone else.
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What do you mean?
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He should have said the third was the Department Of Maple Syrup.

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The scuttlebutt this morning is that Gingrich may pull off a McCain 2008.
Yep. I made up my mind after watching last night's debate.

I've been saying for weeks that it won't be Romney and while I did think Gingrich could beat Obama, I didn't really think Newt had a shot to win the party's nom. Too much baggage...but hell, everyone including Obama has negatives.

They've got to choose someone. And I think it has become more and more apparent that he is their best shot. He fits both establishment and Tea Party.

And I think he'll win it.
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based on your posts, I get that he is your favorite
I see you want to vote GOP, and strongly dislike Mitt

but my observations, is that Obama will creme Gingrich, if he gets the nomination.
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based on your posts, I get that he is your favorite
I see you want to vote GOP, and strongly dislike Mitt

but my observations, is that Obama will creme Gingrich, if he gets the nomination.
He's not my favorite. It's objective observation. I am a former Republican and I live in a very Red State. Primary politics in the GOP isn't too hard to predict.

Yes, I do strongly dislike Mitt. What principled person wouldn't?

As far as voting GOP, short of Huntsman having any shot at all (and we all know he doesn't) I'll be supporting Obama again...begrudgingly.

And I have said as much.

ETA-
I see where you could think I was voting for Newt.
I said "made my mind up"...all I meant was in terms of predictions.
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I think it is reasonable to want who one believes is the best candidate in each party.

One could say there is a 50/50 chance that person could be president.


As a 'moderate' I would rather see a flip/flopping Romney in the WH over an ideologue like Gingrich.

And I too, expect to vote for Obama again.
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He should have said the third was the Department Of Maple Syrup.
That would have been brilliant.
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Cain said if Michele Bachmann had made a blunder like Perry, he would have gone over and given the little lady a big hug.
true dat

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He's a laugh a minute


abcnews.com

After a week of refusing to answer questions regarding sexual harassment allegations, GOP frontrunner Herman Cain appeared Friday afternoon on Fox News with Neil Cavuto to address sexual harassment allegations, his recent Anita Hill joke and opinions on a few of his rivals.

On Friday, following an event in Kalamazoo, Mich., Cain was caught joking with supporters about Anita Hill, wondering whether the lawyer who accused Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment in 1991, a case many are comparing to his ongoing scandal, would endorse him.

Cain told Cavuto that he found one of the comments from a supporter to be hilarious. Cain said of his joke, “That was funny. That was hilarious because I would never in my wildest dreams expect her to endorse me. He got a laugh out of it. I got a laugh out of it.”
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and here's the Perry moment. wow.

Watch Rick Perry's Campaign End Before Your Eyes - YouTube

again: wow. humiliating.
Why go for a (removed) 53-second segment when you can stretch it to 9 minutes and 43 seconds (though Jon Stewart does go a bit over the top at the end).
Indecision 2012 - Mercy Rule Edition - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 11/10/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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