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Old 10-26-2011, 11:01 AM   #331
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I think I agree with Jon

Jon Stewart Pat Robertson Republicans | Daily Show Video | Mediaite

The Republican Party’s rhetoric in the past year, particularly from candidates for president, has finally gotten to the extreme right– or at least to Pat Robertson, who surprisingly exclaimed this weekend that the candidates had to “stop this!” if they expected to win. After a quick recap of what “this” meant, precisely, and what extreme things Robertson deemed appropriate to say in public despite his calls for civility, Jon Stewart concluded tonight that the issue wasn’t what they believed, but letting the general public know about it.

Stewart began his segment with the latest is eyebrow-raising comments from Republican contenders, with Rick Perry dabbling in birtherism because “it’s fun” and Herman Cain‘s electric fence immigration joke– and those were just this week’s comments. Stewart noted that all the candidates were “saying crazy things” with a helpful montage, and found it amazing that Robertson, of all people, “Pat ‘Liberals Are Akin To Nazis’ Robertson believes Republicans are a bit extreme.” “It would be like Facebook saying to you, ‘TMI,’” Stewart joked.

Just as a reminder, Stewart then played several clips of Robertson’s “greatest hits”– claiming the Haitian earthquake was a result of a pact with the devil, blaming gay people for basically all the sin in the world, calling for the death of foreign leaders, the works. Which begs the question: “why is Pat Robertson, AKA ‘That Crazy Fucking Guy,’ telling Republican presidential candidates to moderate their rhetoric?” Stewart concluded it was merely a product of wanting to win elections. “You’re right,” Stewart argued Robertson was saying, “but keep that our little secret… If you tell people what we honestly believe, an electoral majority of those people will freak the fuck out.”
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:59 PM   #332
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"I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that. I don’t know how much our contribution is to that, because I know that there have been periods of greater heat and warmth in the past but I believe we contribute to that. And so I think it’s important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you’re seeing," - Mitt Romney, June 3, 2011.
Well hey, that's a pretty reasonable position to take there, Mr. Romney.

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"My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet. And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us," - Mitt Romney, October 27.
Oh.

So I guess that means he was for it before he was against it, then?
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:06 PM   #333
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He's like a cross between John Kerry and Gordon Gekko.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:17 PM   #334
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one way of looking at it.

do you want somebody, say Perry, that has always and most likely will always have the wrong idea and conclusions

or do you want a person that has a flexible mind, and is capable of reaching correct conclusions?

in the 90's conservatives and liberals went nuts about Bill Clinton because of his 'flexible' thinking,

but, I and most people think it was better for all of us.
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I'm saying as far as his electibility. There's no question I'd prefer Romney, who seems relatively intelligent, over Perry, who is both an idiot and a jackass.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:26 PM   #336
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Unfortunately Romney comes attached to a party determined to continue pitting the middle class against the poor, at the benefit of the private sector that sends jobs overseas anyway.
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remember the whole reality show thing?

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Herman Cain claims 'witch hunt,' sings gospel song [Video]

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October 31, 2011, 12:37 p.m.
Speaking at the National Press Club in Washington on Monday, Herman Cain continued to defend himself against claims that he sexually harassed two employees while leading a trade association in the 1990s, telling the audience that he's the victim of a "witch hunt."

As he had earlier in the day on Fox News Channel, Cain admitted that he had been accused of harassment while he was the president and chief executive of the National Restaurant Assn.

Cain insisted to the lunchtime crowd that the claims were false and said he did not know whether they were settled or how much it cost to settle them.

While Cain's speech to the Washington institution had been previously scheduled, the harassment story, first reported Sunday evening by Politico, ensured that it was swarming with reporters and cameras.

As Cain spoke, NBC News reported that it had confirmed that one woman who worked at the association received a settlement after complaining about Cain's conduct.

“I would be delighted to clear the air,” he told questioner Mark Hamrick in a question and answer session that followed his standard stump speech. “In all my over 40 years of business experience. . . of running businesses and corporations, I have never sexually harassed anyone.”

But, he added, when he was accused of sexual harassment – “falsely accused, I might add….as leader of the organization, I recused myself and allowed my general counsel and human resources officer to deal with the situation.”

Following “a thorough investigation,” he said, those staffers reached the conclusion that the charges “had no basis.”

Politico reported Sunday that two women received settlements in the five figures.

“I am unaware of any settlement," Cain said Monday. "I hope it wasn’t for much because I didn’t do anything.”

Some say it strains credulity that Cain, as leader of the restaurant trade group, would not be aware of money paid to women claiming he’d harassed them; neither alleged victim has allowed herself to be identified, according to Politico.

Politico reported that the settlement agreements prohibited them from speaking publicly about their departures from the association.

The revelations about Cain’s personal conduct come at a time when Cain is riding high in the polls and is trying to persuade Republican voters that he is more than a “flavor of the week” candidate.

Following a forum on economic policy earlier Monday at the American Enterprise Institute, Cain was asked whether the GOP, which has had a series of presidential favorites this year who rise then fade, will “fall out of love with you any time soon.”

Cain replied that his support comes from “the people, not the party. The people have propelled my candidacy. The momentum is coming from the grassroots.”

He added “That’s why this flavor of the week is now the flavor of the month and it still tastes good.”

Later, Cain gave reporters at the National Press Club a taste of how he charms crowds on the campaign trail. When Hamrick asked if he would consider ending with a song, Cain complied, singing a verse of a favorite gospel song “He Looked Beyond My Faults.”

Herman Cain claims 'witch hunt,' sings gospel song [Video] - latimes.com


remember, this is the Republican front runner. again: front runner.

it's like GOP Apprentice.
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The only fight is for undecided voters, and Eventual Candidate Elect Rommney will do an okay job at wooing some of them.

Democratic voters will always vote Democrat, even if their candidate is a wet shoe.

Republican voters will always vote Republican, even if their candidate is a box of rocks.
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so, Mitt's got this thing, right?

i mean, honestly, he's the only candidate who hasn't completely embarrassed himself, especially after Perry's drunk-in-New-Hampshire speech last Friday.

but, anyway, i say good. it's obvious that Cain and Perry (and Bachman and the rest ... excepting Huntsman) are utterly unprepared to be president in ways that rival even Sarah Palin (at least she was governor of a state for a little while and, arguably, could out-debate Perry). i'm glad that they won't be anywhere near the nuclear codes.
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If you want to keep Obama in, you should probably hope Cain remains the front runner until the election. I wonder who his Abel will be.
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from an interview with Cain in the Israeli paper Israel Hayom over the weekend:
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IH: What is your position on the Obama administration's Middle East policy?

Cain: ...I think that the so-called Palestinian people have this urge for unilateral recognition because they see this president as weak. I haven’t seen all the facts but I think this whole assassination attempt [i.e. by Iran against the Saudi ambassador, allegedly] was another example of seeing this president as weak, in that regard. ...
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IH: Would you transfer your embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

Cain: I would.
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IH: What do you think of the Obama administration's handling of Iran and what would you do differently, if anything?

Cain: I don’t know if this is going to translate well in your language: Choke. Choke them economically. Here’s what I mean by that and I know that that’s not politically correct to say but here’s the idea: It costs them $70 a barrel to break even on their oil. It costs Saudi Arabia $30. ...

Second thing that we would do is that I would invest in our fleet of aegis-ballistic missile defense systems. We have the biggest fleet with that capability in the world. We need to upgrade it such that the ballistic-missile defense systems' sea base would have the ability to detect threats for a longer period of time; strategically place some of those ships in that part of the world then let the Iranians know that we have that capability stationed there and let them know that if they wanted to attack our friends, attack Israel or the United States, that we won’t hesitate to retaliate.
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IH: Do you think this president represents American values?

Cain: I do not believe he represents American values. One of our American values is: America is an exceptional country. He appears to want to try and apologize for that. Americans hate that. They hate that. It’s not that Americans feel arrogant but the opportunities that people have in this country, the standard of living that people have in this country, is exceptional. Our military capability, it’s exceptional. It’s weaker now, but it’s exceptional. That’s a huge American value. That same attitude is what started this country. And it appears as if he is trying to diminish and mitigate that. So from that standpoint he doesn’t represent American values. There’s another American value he doesn't represent. He’s a distributionist. Most of the people in this country believe in the free market system. ...
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IH: Who would you feel most comfortable going with to the White House as your number two?

Cain: Newt Gingrich. Despite some of the baggage that he has, he's the most knowledgeable, the sharpest, and respected by all. ...
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I haven’t seen all the facts
sums him up succinctly.

get out

he is seriously this decade's Noid
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Wow. Just wow. He makes Sarah Palin look like a MENSA member.
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he is seriously this decade's Noid
I find the Noid better able to articulate his thoughts than Cain.


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Even some of the extreme right is falling out of love with Cain, Laura Ingram is going through a detailed analysis of his lack of foreign policy understanding. Although I don't really think it will matter to the base.
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