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Old 10-14-2011, 04:07 PM   #256
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To the surprise of absolutely nobody...
The right wingers will argue that Obama's success is America's failure.
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Stop using Mitt as a surrogate argument against the 'crazies'.


come again?
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Geesh he can't even look sexy speaking French. Still comes across like an asexual animatron.
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Speaking of Herman, his 999 plan would have someone making 50 grand a year paying almost 3 grand a year more in taxes



GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain came down hard on immigration Saturday on the campaign trail, telling crowds in Tennessee that part of his policy would be to build an electrified fence on the Mexican border that could potentially kill anyone trying to enter the country illegally.

He backed away from that proposal Sunday morning, however, saying he wasn't serious about the idea.

"That's a joke, David," he told NBC's David Gregory on "Meet The Press." "That's not a serious plan."

The New York Times relays Cain's description of the fence: "It's going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you -- Warning.'"

Cain later added, "We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don't have to sneak into America." The presidential hopeful suggested also using armed military troops to help secure the border.

The idea of an electrified fence also surfaced at a campaign stop in Iowa this summer, when Cain suggested America build a border wall similar to the Great Wall of China, going so far as to advocate a moat full of alligators. Cain's remarks, via ThinkProgress:

I just got back from China. Ever heard of the Great Wall of China? It looks pretty sturdy. And that sucker is real high. I think we can build one if we want to! We have put a man on the moon, we can build a fence! Now, my fence might be part Great Wall and part electrical technology. ... It will be a twenty foot wall, barbed wire, electrified on the top, and on this side of the fence, I'll have that moat that President Obama talked about. And I would put those alligators in that moat!

The "alligators in the moat" idea referenced a tongue-in-cheek comment by President Barack Obama, while speaking on immigration reform in Texas back in May. "They’ll want a higher fence. Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they'll want alligators in the moat, the president joked. "They’ll never be satisfied."

Cain's controversial remarks on border security caused a backlash from the national pro-immigration group Somos Republicans, which called on him to resign his candidacy. But Cain softened his remarks in an interview with the New York Times magazine in July, saying he meant if they could build that wall centuries ago, we can secure the border today, with a combination of walls and high-tech equipment.

Commenting on the remarks after the Fox News GOP debate in August, Cain dialed back further, insisting that "America's got to learn how to take a joke."
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Rick Perry Camp’s Anti-Mormon Message - The Daily Beast

"Texas Gov. Rick Perry has publicly distanced himself from the anti-Mormon rhetoric of a prominent Baptist minister who has endorsed his presidential campaign. But new evidence suggests that Perry’s team may be quietly advancing the notion that Mitt Romney’s faith should disqualify him from the White House.

The Daily Beast has obtained a series of emails that show an influential evangelical activist with close ties to the Perry campaign stressing the political importance of “juxtaposing traditional Christianity to the false God of Mormonism,” and calling for a “clarion call to Evangelical pastors and pews” that will be “the key to the primary” for Perry."
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Perry's already lost the nomination. Nice to know that he plans to go down in a dignified fashion.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:39 PM   #263
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Who would have predicted this?

I had a feeling Perry wouldn't get the nom, but I didn't expect him to fail this hard this fast, and I definitely didn't think Herman insane Caine to be doing this well at this point.
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I am not ready to write Perry off completely yet.

These primaries happen one at a time. And some early states do have a good GOP religious turn out. In 2000 there was a whispering campaign that pretty much stopped McCain in a few states. About his daughter, her race and parentage. These current polls won't count as much as the get out the vote calls, etc.
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I'd imagine any Republican contenders this time out won't try to run their 2016 chances too hard into the ground (except for Cain, who seems to really not give a damn with his crazy rhetoric, sometimes).

2016 must look fairly ripe for the GOP, considering the corporate fund-raising juggernaut in the White House will have finished out his term limit.
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Rick Santorum Calls SNL Poke At His Anti-Gay Marriage Views 'Bullying'


Rick Santorum on Sunday responded to a Saturday Night Live skit that poked fun at his anti-gay marriage views.

In the comedy sketch, GOP candidates attending a presidential debate in Iowa were arranged according to poll rankings, putting Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann in a broom closet, Ron Paul in a hotel parking garage and Santorum in a gay bar in San Francisco's Castro District.

In the room with the moderator were frontrunners Herman Cain, Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, though he had to face a wall.

Santorum, known as the field's most outspoken opponent of gay rights, and in particular marriage, is briefly seen cowering in the gay bar sandwiched between men wearing tank tops and leather vests.

Speaking to New Hampshire radio station WGIR, Santorum called the comedy skit a form of “bullying.”

“We've been hammered by the left for my standing up for the traditional family and I will continue to do so,” Santorum said. “The left, unfortunately, participates in bullying more than the right does. They say that they're tolerant, and they're anything but tolerant of people who disagree with them and support traditional values.”

SNL Skit Has Rick Santorum In A Gay Bar; Ron Paul In A Garage - YouTube
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Santorum: Democrats Rely On Single Moms - YouTube
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Spoken like someone who's never experienced actual bullying.
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