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Old 10-12-2011, 06:50 PM   #241
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Again, what conservatives point to is that when the family breaks down a paternalistic government must step in to provide, not only health care, but food, housing, daycare, and welfare. And of course we already have a provided retirement and the Occupy crowd now demands a free college education as well.

A paternalistic government is not a limited government.

No one proposes abandoning the poor but can we please stop government policies and programs that exacerbate the problem?
Define exacerbating the problem. To me, exacerbating the problem is what conservatives are proposing. It is abandoning the poor.
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Again, what conservatives point to is that when the family breaks down a paternalistic government must step in to provide, not only health care, but food, housing, daycare, and welfare.

you're assuming that people can afford these things even with 2 incomes. they can't.

poor people are still poor, whether or not mom and dad are married. the cost of these things -- health care, housing, education, day care -- has skyrocketed while real income has not increased.

it's probably nice to tell yourself that people are poor because they choose to be, or because they make poor choices, but most people are poor because they are poor.
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Poor people are poor because they want to be poor.

Herman Cain opened my eyes to that.
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Define exacerbating the problem. To me, exacerbating the problem is what conservatives are proposing. It is abandoning the poor.
Implying they actually cared about the poor in the first place.
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Poor people are poor because they are lazy.
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And because they don't have money.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:03 PM   #247
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To the surprise of absolutely nobody...

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The most prominent Republican in the Obama administration is accusing GOP House members of blocking efforts to resolve the nation's problems, partly because they don't want the president to be successful.
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood was asked at a transportation conference Friday why it was so difficult to get big infrastructure projects built right now.

He responded that "some people don't want Obama to be successful."

He said "a big percentage of the Republicans that were elected this time came here to do zero, and that's what they've done." LaHood says those lawmakers have obstructed other people who want to get things done.
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Mitch McConnell already said that their #1 goal is to make Obama a one-term president, so, no, no surprise.

i can't think of another example where one party was completely and totally dedicated to the destruction of one particular individual, no matter the damage to the country.

maybe the Lewinsky scandal, but that was a sideshow. this actually effects people.
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oh.

my.

GOD!

Mitt Romney speaks French - YouTube



this is a game changer.
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Have we seen his birth certificate?
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a stealth Democrat?
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oh.

my.

GOD!

Mitt Romney speaks French - YouTube



this is a game changer.
He just lost the election.

French-speaker: REPUBLICAN IN NAME ONLY
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even worse: he learned "French" while on his Jesus-hating cult Mormon "mission" in "France."

also, Perry's wife thinks the reason everyone hates Rick is because he's a Christian.

just so you know.
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a little research would show that Perry is the real cult- fringe lunatic guy, if you look at his affiliation and their objectives
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All of these sarcastic arguments really look beyond the actual issue with Mitt. The guy will say or do anything to get elected. He has no principles. He's a complete fraud.

Is he a less scary version of a potential Republican President as compared to some of these other clowns? Sure. But do you really want a slick used car salesman with no principles leading a party of (what you would consider to be) already 'scary' individuals? Do you think he'll stand up to those elements of his party? Hell no.

Stop using Mitt as a surrogate argument against the 'crazies'.
He'll do whatever it takes to stay in office, if and when he gets there.
Including becoming a 'crazy' himself.
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