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I like about half of what he says. The other half:
(and to be fair, I think some of what Kucinich says is coocoo, too.)
Also, I HATE people that claim to be a Libertarian but would restrict women's reproductive choices.
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I like about half of what he says. The other half:
(and to be fair, I think some of what Kucinich says is coocoo, too.)
Also, I HATE people that claim to be a Libertarian but would restrict women's reproductive choices.
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Based on her past quote, if accurate, fair question. However, I'm pretty sure many of the women who spout this philosophy aren't actually submissive.
He's an ivory-tower populist; a crowd-pleaser on paper, whilst untenable in practice.
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I like Ron Paul. I like some of what he says and he makes a lot of sense, but it wouldn't work in practice.
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A missed oportunity.
She could have hit it out of the park. (or at least swung for the fences)
She should have said something like.
In America most people respect one's personal religious believes.
The 20? years I served as an elected official my husband has never tried to dictate how I do my job. He realizes I was the person elected to office.
This is a bit like when JFK was asked if he was going to take orders from the Pope.
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^ I agree, that would have been the states(wo)manlike answer. But Kennedy wasn't looking to be The Catholic President, whereas Bachmann does want to be a Christian President.
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A point of view (with some bias).
I am sure if you check the voters in her district that support her you will find some Jews, and agnostics that support her for her 'no tax stand' of some other parts of her platform.
I am sure if you check the voters in her district that support her you will find some Jews, and agnostics that support her for her 'no tax stand' of some other parts of her platform.
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Figures she uses the teeth too much. Fits her personality.
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THE FUTURE JUST GOT A BIG KISS
A Judas kiss?
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Romney is already growing the economy
T-shirt sales are up.
T-shirt sales are up.
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Ohhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyy...This election cycle is going to be such a doozie, Indie, I'm glad we'll be sharing it together 
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A religious nut from Texas. Cool.
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here's to the highest poverty rate in the nation, more executions, more pollution, and no kids with health care!
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Rick Perry will pray the economic woes away.
i'm quite comfortable with Perry as the nominee.
to call him "regional" is an understatement.
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too busy to think out a post, so here's one written by someone else that sums up the present fanaticism of the GOP. and, yes, Perry and Bachmann are fanatics who actually pull back the curtains on Bush's so-called religiosity. that was a bit of a dog-and-pony show meant to fool the gullible; these two are the real deal.
the only good things i i have to say about Bachmann is that she's obviously worlds smarter than Palin, and if Marcus were to be our first "First Gentleman," i can't wait for the fashion.
the only good things i i have to say about Bachmann is that she's obviously worlds smarter than Palin, and if Marcus were to be our first "First Gentleman," i can't wait for the fashion.
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I don't ever remember that being said about W, he had that last name that pretty much removed him from being "regional".
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but W had the Bush name -- his family was the bluest of the blue bloods, starting with Sen. Prescott Bush out of Connecticut.
that gave him a credibility in the eyes of the Establishment. and his cowboy-style served him well in whipping up fear about scary Muslims trying to kill us all.
Perry is an enormous step further than this. this is an elected official who LED A STATEWIDE PRAYER SESSION FOR RAIN.
can we pause on that? that's fucking batshit. Bush might have talked about answering to a "higher father," but Perry is claiming a direct line to God.
however, with Dallas heading for it's, what, 40th straight day of 100+ temps and no rain, it seems god certainly isn't listening to Rick fucking Perry.
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On every single one of her Sunday morning show appearances, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann was confronted by her positions on the economy and her opposition to the Obama administration’s policies, but David Gregory may have been the only host to bring up Bachmann’s past statements regarding homosexuality and gay marriage.
Gregory focused on a speech Bachmann gave in 2004, where she suggested living a gay lifestyle would lead to “the personal enslavement of individuals,” and asked the candidate if she still believed those words seven years later. Bachmann explained that she is not running “to be anyone’s judge,” but Gregory argued that her previous comment indicates she has already passed judgement on them. The congresswoman tried her best to make a delicate balance between her social conservatism and her compassionate tendencies.
“My view on marriage is that I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s what I stand for. But I ascribe honor and dignity to every person, no matter what their background. They have honor and they have dignity.”
Gregory wondered if people watching would ascribe honor and dignity to Bachmann for the words she used to describe gay people, but she continued to insist several times that “I’m not judging them,” which is basically the political equivalent of saying, “I’m not a hater.” However, she did indicate a willingness to appoint an openly gay judge as long as they upheld the Constitution, demonstrated a level of competence, and shared her philosophical views. Gregory tried once again to get a definitive “yes” or “no” from Bachmann on if she would definitely consider appointing a gay judge, but she just answered, “I have my criteria.”
On the issue of whether gay couples who adopt can be considered a family, Bachmann did not solicit a straight answer, clarifying once again her belief in marriage as being between one man and one woman. She dismissed such questions as unimportant, but Gregory pointed out that in her 2004 speech she referred to gay marriage as a defining issue, so this will definitely not be the last time Bachmann will have to answer these questions.
On every single one of her Sunday morning show appearances, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann was confronted by her positions on the economy and her opposition to the Obama administration’s policies, but David Gregory may have been the only host to bring up Bachmann’s past statements regarding homosexuality and gay marriage.
Gregory focused on a speech Bachmann gave in 2004, where she suggested living a gay lifestyle would lead to “the personal enslavement of individuals,” and asked the candidate if she still believed those words seven years later. Bachmann explained that she is not running “to be anyone’s judge,” but Gregory argued that her previous comment indicates she has already passed judgement on them. The congresswoman tried her best to make a delicate balance between her social conservatism and her compassionate tendencies.
“My view on marriage is that I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s what I stand for. But I ascribe honor and dignity to every person, no matter what their background. They have honor and they have dignity.”
Gregory wondered if people watching would ascribe honor and dignity to Bachmann for the words she used to describe gay people, but she continued to insist several times that “I’m not judging them,” which is basically the political equivalent of saying, “I’m not a hater.” However, she did indicate a willingness to appoint an openly gay judge as long as they upheld the Constitution, demonstrated a level of competence, and shared her philosophical views. Gregory tried once again to get a definitive “yes” or “no” from Bachmann on if she would definitely consider appointing a gay judge, but she just answered, “I have my criteria.”
On the issue of whether gay couples who adopt can be considered a family, Bachmann did not solicit a straight answer, clarifying once again her belief in marriage as being between one man and one woman. She dismissed such questions as unimportant, but Gregory pointed out that in her 2004 speech she referred to gay marriage as a defining issue, so this will definitely not be the last time Bachmann will have to answer these questions.
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Bachmann, Perry share billing but avoid each other - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com
The contrast did not go unnoticed by local Republican activists, who traditionally value having direct contact with the candidates in their no-frills state contests.
"She didn't sit down to visit with us and eat with us," attendee Mel Shaw, 57, told the U.K.'s Telegraph newspaper. "She came into the room like she was Madonna or something, a big star appearing before all us little people. She didn't want to answer questions. That's not the way we do politics here."
The contrast did not go unnoticed by local Republican activists, who traditionally value having direct contact with the candidates in their no-frills state contests.
"She didn't sit down to visit with us and eat with us," attendee Mel Shaw, 57, told the U.K.'s Telegraph newspaper. "She came into the room like she was Madonna or something, a big star appearing before all us little people. She didn't want to answer questions. That's not the way we do politics here."
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He reminds me of..who is it now? Oh yeah, Mitt.
Texas Tribune Aug 15
For years, Gov. Rick Perry has taken flak for his 2007 attempt to require girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, the most commonly sexually transmitted disease and the principal cause of cervical cancer. At the risk of angering fellow conservatives, Perry has always insisted he did the right thing.
That unapologetic approach changed this weekend.
A few hours after unveiling his campaign for president, Perry began walking back from one of the most controversial decisions of his more-than-10-year reign as Texas governor. Speaking to voters at a backyard party in New Hampshire, Perry said he was ill-informed when he issued his executive order, in February 2007, mandating the HPV vaccine for all girls entering sixth grade, unless their parents completed a conscientious-objection affidavit form. The vaccine, Merck & Co.’s Gardasil, would have protected against the forms of HPV that cause about 70 percent of all cervical cancer, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control.
"I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is that I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry," Perry said at the Manchester, N.H., event in response to an audience question about the HPV controversy, according to ABC News’ The Note. "But here’s what I learned: When you get too far out in front of the parade, they will let you know, and that’s exactly what our Legislature did, and I saluted it and I said, 'Roger that, I hear you loud and clear.' And they didn’t want to do it and we don’t, so enough said.”
Instead of making the vaccine mandatory, "what we should of done was a program that frankly allowed them to opt in or some type of program like that," Perry told the New Hampshire gathering.
With Perry’s declaration Saturday that he is entering the contest for the Republican presidential nomination, his lengthy record — Perry has been an elected official for almost 26 years — will come under intense new scrutiny. As the longest-serving governor in the country and the longest ever in Texas, Perry has a substantial history of political activity and has taken positions on a host of potentially controversial issues.
The new comments about the HPV decision amount to an acknowledgment that Perry has to deal early with controversies that could otherwise dog him in his primary fight against U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Tea Party darling who is running strong in first-test Iowa, and Mitt Romney, a well-funded candidate with strong establishment backing and the ex-governor of New Hampshire’s neighbor, Massachusetts.
In recent weeks Perry has also sought to clarify his 10th Amendment-friendly statements on other hot-button issues. A few weeks before jumping into the race, Perry said in Aspen, Colo., that gay marriage should be left up to the individual states. Gay marriage in New York?
“That’s their business,” Perry said. Later, in Houston, Perry said he would allow states to set abortion policy if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned some day as he hopes.
The statements prompted criticism among Christian conservatives. Perry also took a pounding from former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, a struggling GOP presidential candidate and social conservative, who criticized his laissez-faire approach. Perry has since begun stressing the need for federal constitutional bans on both gay marriage and abortion.
The governor had come under sharp criticism immediately after issuing the executive order on Feb. 2, 2007, to make the HPV vaccine mandatory. The conservative Eagle Forum and top Republicans in the Legislature were caught off guard and, in the words of one of them, “stunned” after Perry used an executive order to make the vaccine mandatory. Many lawmakers accused the governor of usurping parental rights and said the vaccine would encourage girls to be sexually promiscuous. At the time, Perry rejected their arguments.
"Providing the HPV vaccine doesn't promote sexual promiscuity any more than the hepatitis B vaccine promotes drug use," Perry said. "If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it, claiming it would encourage smoking?"
Perry was also dogged by accusations that he was close to Merck, at the time the sole manufacturer of the vaccine. Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff and longtime adviser, was reported to be one of Merck’s three lobbyists in Texas. Merck’s political action committee donated $6,000 to Perry’s re-election campaign. Perry said the donations, small in the relative scheme of big-money Texas politics, had no influence on his decision.
In short order, the Legislature overwhelmingly overturned the decree. Acknowledging he did not have the votes to sustain a veto of the legislation, Perry announced he would allow it to become law without his signature. But he sharply criticized the Legislature.
"In the next year, more than a thousand women will likely be diagnosed with this insidious yet mostly preventable disease," Perry said at a May 9, 2007, news conference, surrounded by women who had been affected by HPV, including one who he said had been infected by a rapist. "I challenge legislators to look these women in the eyes and tell them, 'We could have prevented this disease for your daughters and granddaughters, but we just didn't have the gumption to address all the misguided and misleading political rhetoric.'"
Until now, Perry never yielded to opponents who said he should have handled the issue differently rather than through a unilateral executive order. U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison tried to make it an issue in her gubernatorial campaign to unseat him in 2010. In a January 2010 debate, Perry defended his decision to issue the executive order. It was not a mistake — “no sir, not from my position,” he said. “I stand proudly by my pro-life position.”
Later, in a September 2010 interview after an East Texas gubernatorial campaign swing, Perry was still sticking to his guns that his decision to issue the executive order was the right thing to do.
“Let me tell you why it wasn’t a bad idea: Even though that was the result I was looking for, and that becoming the standard procedure for protecting young women against this very heinous deadly dreadful disease, it caused a national debate,” Perry said. “I knew I was going to take a political hit … at the end of the day, I did what was right from my perspective, and I did something that saved people’s lives and, you know, that’s a big deal.”
State Rep. Jessica Farrar, D-Houston, now the Democratic leader in the House, had found herself in rare agreement with the governor when he issued his 2007 executive order. On Sunday, she said this about Perry’s statement in New Hampshire: “Rick Perry initially did the right thing for women’s health with regards to an important vaccine against cervical cancer, and he has flip-flopped, cowering to the Republican primary base.”
Texas Tribune Aug 15
For years, Gov. Rick Perry has taken flak for his 2007 attempt to require girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, the most commonly sexually transmitted disease and the principal cause of cervical cancer. At the risk of angering fellow conservatives, Perry has always insisted he did the right thing.
That unapologetic approach changed this weekend.
A few hours after unveiling his campaign for president, Perry began walking back from one of the most controversial decisions of his more-than-10-year reign as Texas governor. Speaking to voters at a backyard party in New Hampshire, Perry said he was ill-informed when he issued his executive order, in February 2007, mandating the HPV vaccine for all girls entering sixth grade, unless their parents completed a conscientious-objection affidavit form. The vaccine, Merck & Co.’s Gardasil, would have protected against the forms of HPV that cause about 70 percent of all cervical cancer, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control.
"I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is that I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry," Perry said at the Manchester, N.H., event in response to an audience question about the HPV controversy, according to ABC News’ The Note. "But here’s what I learned: When you get too far out in front of the parade, they will let you know, and that’s exactly what our Legislature did, and I saluted it and I said, 'Roger that, I hear you loud and clear.' And they didn’t want to do it and we don’t, so enough said.”
Instead of making the vaccine mandatory, "what we should of done was a program that frankly allowed them to opt in or some type of program like that," Perry told the New Hampshire gathering.
With Perry’s declaration Saturday that he is entering the contest for the Republican presidential nomination, his lengthy record — Perry has been an elected official for almost 26 years — will come under intense new scrutiny. As the longest-serving governor in the country and the longest ever in Texas, Perry has a substantial history of political activity and has taken positions on a host of potentially controversial issues.
The new comments about the HPV decision amount to an acknowledgment that Perry has to deal early with controversies that could otherwise dog him in his primary fight against U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Tea Party darling who is running strong in first-test Iowa, and Mitt Romney, a well-funded candidate with strong establishment backing and the ex-governor of New Hampshire’s neighbor, Massachusetts.
In recent weeks Perry has also sought to clarify his 10th Amendment-friendly statements on other hot-button issues. A few weeks before jumping into the race, Perry said in Aspen, Colo., that gay marriage should be left up to the individual states. Gay marriage in New York?
“That’s their business,” Perry said. Later, in Houston, Perry said he would allow states to set abortion policy if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned some day as he hopes.
The statements prompted criticism among Christian conservatives. Perry also took a pounding from former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, a struggling GOP presidential candidate and social conservative, who criticized his laissez-faire approach. Perry has since begun stressing the need for federal constitutional bans on both gay marriage and abortion.
The governor had come under sharp criticism immediately after issuing the executive order on Feb. 2, 2007, to make the HPV vaccine mandatory. The conservative Eagle Forum and top Republicans in the Legislature were caught off guard and, in the words of one of them, “stunned” after Perry used an executive order to make the vaccine mandatory. Many lawmakers accused the governor of usurping parental rights and said the vaccine would encourage girls to be sexually promiscuous. At the time, Perry rejected their arguments.
"Providing the HPV vaccine doesn't promote sexual promiscuity any more than the hepatitis B vaccine promotes drug use," Perry said. "If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it, claiming it would encourage smoking?"
Perry was also dogged by accusations that he was close to Merck, at the time the sole manufacturer of the vaccine. Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff and longtime adviser, was reported to be one of Merck’s three lobbyists in Texas. Merck’s political action committee donated $6,000 to Perry’s re-election campaign. Perry said the donations, small in the relative scheme of big-money Texas politics, had no influence on his decision.
In short order, the Legislature overwhelmingly overturned the decree. Acknowledging he did not have the votes to sustain a veto of the legislation, Perry announced he would allow it to become law without his signature. But he sharply criticized the Legislature.
"In the next year, more than a thousand women will likely be diagnosed with this insidious yet mostly preventable disease," Perry said at a May 9, 2007, news conference, surrounded by women who had been affected by HPV, including one who he said had been infected by a rapist. "I challenge legislators to look these women in the eyes and tell them, 'We could have prevented this disease for your daughters and granddaughters, but we just didn't have the gumption to address all the misguided and misleading political rhetoric.'"
Until now, Perry never yielded to opponents who said he should have handled the issue differently rather than through a unilateral executive order. U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison tried to make it an issue in her gubernatorial campaign to unseat him in 2010. In a January 2010 debate, Perry defended his decision to issue the executive order. It was not a mistake — “no sir, not from my position,” he said. “I stand proudly by my pro-life position.”
Later, in a September 2010 interview after an East Texas gubernatorial campaign swing, Perry was still sticking to his guns that his decision to issue the executive order was the right thing to do.
“Let me tell you why it wasn’t a bad idea: Even though that was the result I was looking for, and that becoming the standard procedure for protecting young women against this very heinous deadly dreadful disease, it caused a national debate,” Perry said. “I knew I was going to take a political hit … at the end of the day, I did what was right from my perspective, and I did something that saved people’s lives and, you know, that’s a big deal.”
State Rep. Jessica Farrar, D-Houston, now the Democratic leader in the House, had found herself in rare agreement with the governor when he issued his 2007 executive order. On Sunday, she said this about Perry’s statement in New Hampshire: “Rick Perry initially did the right thing for women’s health with regards to an important vaccine against cervical cancer, and he has flip-flopped, cowering to the Republican primary base.”
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Well I really hope and pray that doesn't happen, but if it did I want him to get a makeover from Carson Kressley. That would be awesome on every possible level. I'd want to leave this country but I'd have to stick around to see that.
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