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you think King George would have taken away the colonist's guns, if he could.

the colonists did not win our freedoms with sit-ins.
 
yes, Paul Revere's ride was about the 2nd Amendment.

question: does anybody trust this person with nuclear weapons?
 
i think we absolutely can tie the 2nd Amendment back to the Revolutionary War, but to say that Paul Revere's ride was about "warnin' the British not to take our arms" is lunacy.
 
this isn't about a PHD in American History or winning a History Bee
she got the right War, parties and action

that is enough for regular, hard working Americans.
 
yes, Paul Revere's ride was about the 2nd Amendment.

Yeah, that's weird. It's all a strange mumble jumble of I don't quite know what. And yes, suddenly all these previously unknown "facts" about Paul and his ride are coming to light :eyebrow:

I heard he played for the Bruins too

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CHICAGO (AP/The Huffington Post) -- Republican Tim Pawlenty was set to propose an economic policy Tuesday that would simplify individual tax rates to just three options and cut taxes on business by more than half as he offered himself as a replacement to Barack Obama in the Democratic president's hometown.

"President Obama is a champion practitioner of class warfare," Pawlenty will say, according to advance excerpts. "He has spent three years dividing our nation, fanning the flames of class envy and resentment to deflect attention from his own failures and the economic hardship they have visited on America."

The former Minnesota governor also was to propose that any services available privately, such as the postal services or mortgages, should not be something government handles. He said he would require a vote in Congress to extend any regulation or he would cancel it. And he said he would eliminate taxes on investments and inheritances.

"But our policies can't just be about simply cutting rates. They must also promote freedom and free markets," Pawlenty said in excerpts provided ahead of the morning speech at the University of Chicago.

Pawlenty's speech, his first as a declared presidential candidate, also kept an eye on presidential politics and blamed Obama for an anemic economy. He said Americans are ready to innovate and create jobs, but "they have been discouraged and weighed down by President Obama's big government and heavy-handed regulations."

In a speech expected to be heavy on specifics, Pawlenty was ready to propose a three-tier income tax system:

_ The estimated 45 percent of U.S. households that did not pay income taxes in 2010 would see no change in their tax rates.


_ Individuals would pay 10 percent tax on the first $50,000 of income. Couples earning $100,000 would also pay that rate.

_ "Everything above that would be taxed at 25 percent," Pawlenty said.

He also wanted to cut business taxes, reducing the current rate from 35 percent to 15 percent.
 
Our legislature is about to shut down state services because of the wrangling and gridlock over the budget mess he left in Minnesota.

I'm guessing his wife handles the checkbook. Pawlenty is useless.
 
Got my first lengthy political survey call yesterday (Pawlenty's pollers)
 
I get called from time to time.

I think it is because I have voted in every election in the last 30 years.
So I qualify as "a likely voter".

Also, I have had the same phone number since 1987.
 
Sarah Palin's tour a rolling menace - Kasie Hunt - POLITICO.com

SEABROOK, N.H. — Sarah Palin’s bus is plastered with a mock-up of the U.S. Constitution. But her entourage — both the three-vehicle motorcade that includes the bus and the smaller, two-SUV version she uses for smaller events — hasn’t been very respectful of traffic laws.

They speed. They run red lights and stop signs. They make last-second lane changes to get off the highway, sometimes without signaling.

So do the reporters following them.

Journalists in the caravan trailing her “One Nation” tour bus describe the experience as harrowing, a rolling menace careening up the East Coast in hot pursuit of the former Alaska governor who declined to provide any advance itinerary of her tour over six days on the road.

As they left the clambake she attended Thursday in New Hampshire, Palin’s two-SUV caravan traveled at 52 miles per hour in a 35 mph zone as it peeled away from the hosts’ neighborhood. Both cars blew through a stop sign about a mile later. They did 70 mph in a 55 mph zone on I-95 — and then, after they got off, without signaling, flew right past a flashing sign informing them they were going 45 mph in a 35 mph zone.

And that was after they had already stormed the major cities — and just missed driving through a tornado on the road into Boston.

On Tuesday, the bus nearly hit a biker turning off of Pine Street in Philadelphia.

On Wednesday, after a police escort led the bus through a closed section of the Lincoln Tunnel, the bus ran at least two red lights racing up Sixth Avenue and through Columbus Circle in Midtown Manhattan. Before long, a cop pulled up, pointing out to the first reporter trailing the bus how many lights they were running. The reporter apologized — but begged to stick with the bus. The perplexed cop let him go.

On Thursday, the story was much the same. Palin’s two SUVs — used for minor events and tight spaces — braved the tiny, winding streets of Boston’s North End. And when the bus joined them, the trailing car in the entourage ran two red lights after the bus barely made it through the yellow, as did the media caravan, leaving behind a traffic jam for the locals.

The reporters who are speeding, tailgating, cutting off other cars, blasting through roundabouts and passing on the right in an effort to keep up, say they have no other choice since they never know what Palin’s up to or where she’s headed — and aides typically won’t tell them anything. Once they’re on the road, they’re filing urgent updates by phone and figuring out unorthodox bathroom breaks, like the reporter who pulled over to relieve himself on the side of the highway going from Gettysburg, Pa., to Philadelphia — drawing notice from both Palin aides and the rest of the trailing press.

“It’s like paparazzi,” said one reporter who followed Palin to the Thursday evening clambake. “It’s like following Princess Diana.” :rolleyes:
 
Although I am a fan of reforming the tax system's complexities, Pawlenty is trotting out the same old misguided ''taxcuts for corporations so that they can turn around and send more U.S. jobs overseas'' plan.
 
Although I am a fan of reforming the tax system's complexities, Pawlenty is trotting out the same old misguided ''taxcuts for corporations so that they can turn around and send more U.S. jobs overseas'' plan.

He pushed through his "Job Z" program in the state which offered significant tax incentives to corporations that hired people in depressed areas of the state. It's widely viewed as a failure. Again, supply-side bullshit: cut taxes and businesses will flourish and jobs will be created.
Well, not if there is no demand for the product or service. :doh:
 
Why would I? It's totally irrelevant. He's not famous for warning the British that the Americans weren't going down without a fight. He's not. She thought he was, because she's horribly uninformed.

I am absolutely, positively, one thousand percent NOT a Palin fan.

But I thought this NPR interview was, sadly, interesting.

How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR

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MELISSA BLOCK, host:

Sarah Palin is defending her knowledge of American history. Last week, after Palin visited Old North Church and Paul Revere's house in Boston, a reporter asked her what she had seen, and what she'd take away from her visit.

Ms. SARAH PALIN (Former Governor, Alaska): We saw where Paul Revere hung out as a teenager, which was something new to learn. And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.

BLOCK: Well, after that generated howls of derision for historical inaccuracy, Palin amplified on "Fox News Sunday." Here's part of what she said.

(Soundbite of TV show, "Fox News Sunday")

Ms. PALIN: Part of Paul Revere's ride - and it wasn't just one ride; he was a courier, he was a messenger - part of his ride was to warn the British that we're already there, that hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have. He did warn the British.

BLOCK: We are going to fact-check Palin's Paul Revere history now with Robert Allison. He's chair of the history department at Suffolk University in Boston.

Professor Allison, welcome to the program.

Professor ROBERT ALLISON (Chairman, History Department, Suffolk University): Thanks, Melissa.

BLOCK: And let's review Paul Revere's midnight ride, April 18, 1775. He's going to Lexington, Massachusetts. And according to Sarah Palin, he's riding his horse through town, sending warning shots and ringing those bells. True?

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he's not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others. What he's doing is going from house to house, knocking on doors of members of the Committees of Safety, saying the regulars are out. That is, he knew that General Gage was sending troops out to Lexington and Concord, really Concord, to seize the weapons being stockpiled there, but also perhaps to arrest John Hancock and Samuel Adams, leaders of the Continental Congress who were staying in the town of Lexington.

Remember, Gage was planning - this is a secret operation; that's why he's moving at night. He gets over to Cambridge, the troops start marching from Cambridge, and church bells are ringing throughout the countryside.

BLOCK: So Paul Revere was ringing those bells? He was a silversmith, right?

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he was - he also was a bell ringer. That is, he rang the bells at Old North Church as a boy. But he, personally, is not getting off his horse and going to ring bells. He's telling other people - and this is their system before Facebook, before Twitter, before NPR - this was the way you get a message out, is by having people ring church bells, and everyone knows there is an emergency.

And by this time, of course, the various town committees of safety, militia knew what the signals were, so they knew something was afoot. So this is no longer a secret operation for the British.

Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans.

BLOCK:Sarah Palin also was saying there that Paul Revere's message to the British in his warning was: You're not going to take American arms - you know, basically a Second Amendment argument, even though the Second Amendment didn't exist then.

Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.

So, yeah, she is right in that. I mean, she may be pushing it too far to say this is a Second Amendment case. Of course, neither the Second Amendment nor the Constitution was in anyone's mind at the time. But the British objective was to get the arms that were stockpiled in Concord.

BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history.

BLOCK: Are there other historians, Professor, whom you've talked with who say you're being entirely too charitable towards Sarah Palin here, and she really did misread American...

Prof. ALLISON: I haven't talked to many - well, I don't know. I mean, I haven't talked to too many historians today. And you know, Sarah Palin is a lightning rod. I just was thinking about how many times, you know, I've spoken about Paul Revere. I've organized events about the American Revolution. No one ever pays any attention. Suddenly, Sarah Palin comes to town, makes an off-the-cuff remark about what she learned, and suddenly, you're calling me to find out what I think about Paul Revere and the American Revolution.

It's a great honor to talk to you, Melissa.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Prof. ALLISON: I wish it didn't take Sarah Palin coming to town to bring us together.

BLOCK: Well, we'll have to do this again sometime.

Prof. ALLISON: I hope so.

BLOCK: Professor Allison, thanks so much.

Prof. ALLISON: Thanks. Take care.

BLOCK: Professor Robert Allison is chair of the history department at Suffolk University in Boston.
 
BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did.
And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history.

ok, now can the GOP please allow some public funding.
 
:lol:

Newsweek has an eye-catching cover for its latest issue: a dancing Mitt Romney.

The picture, which shows a smiling Romney in mid-leap, is a takeoff of a poster for the Broadway smash "The Book of Mormon." A small text box on the cover reads, "Mitt Romney, Mormon for President." The accompanying story asserts that Mormons are "having a moment," though the religion remains controversial.

Also controversial? The cover itself. Some conservative websites are up in arms. The National Review called it "appalling," and Newsbusters wrote, "is this an appropriate way to introduce a serious presidential candidate to your readers?"

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In an interview Wednesday with CBS News, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain described homosexuality as “a sin” and “a choice.” Appearing on the CBS News web program Washington Unplugged, Cain told CBSNews.com senior political reporter Brian Montopoli “I believe homosexuality is a sin because I’m a Bible-believing Christian, I believe it’s a sin,” he said. “But I know that some people make that choice. That’s their choice.”

Montopoli followed up, asking Cain if he thought gays and lesbians were making “a choice” to be homosexual:


Cain was asked: “So you believe it’s a choice?

“I believe it is a choice,” he responded.
 
mediaite.com

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain spoke to an enthusiastic audience in Iowa and unveiled some ideas for how he would keep illegal immigrants from entering the United States along our southern border. While his critics might conclude this is proof that Cain is a fringe, non-serious candidate, supporters of his could just as easily argue that Cain was merely firing up the crowd with his proposal that included alligators, since he was clearly joking – right?

Cain rallied his supporters, saying:

I just got back from China. Ever heard of the Great Wall of China? It looks pretty sturdy. And that sucker is real high. I think we can build one if we want to! We have put a man on the moon, we can build a fence! Now, my fence might be part Great Wall and part electrical technology. . . . Put me in charge of the fence and it will be a twenty foot wall, barbed wire, electrified on the top. And on this side of the fence, I’d have that moat that President Obama talked about. And I would put those alligators in that moat!
 
Every time we receive significant intelligence about the enemy, our enemies from within say we obtained is unconstitutionally, as if terrorists should receive the benefits of our constitutional protections.
- Herman Cain on the Constitution

He's a loon and not to be taken seriously.
 
I am not going to be too proud of my state and who they choose as the top candidate.....Iowa used to be a pretty liberal state, but seems more and more we're turning into a Southern state in regards to social issues.

We elect a former Gov, and a majority of R's back to the state to try and fix the economy and all we talk about is gay marriage and guns.

I just don't understand why homosexuality is so fucking important when thousands of people don't have jobs. But it's this way on our nation's capital as well. Cut spending for programs that can help the poor, elderly, and minorities.....promote the Bible!
 
i kind of do think that Newsweek cover is a bit inappropriate. if i were Team Mittens, i'd be pissed.

I know, I shouldn't have laughed (it's just having the Mitt exposure and seeing him like that) and I get what you're saying. I think he said he saw the play and that he really enjoyed it. From what little I know about it I thought it was actually positive about the Mormon faith. ?
 
ok,

If Irvine, thinks he is being abused, then this can work to Mitt's advantage.

I think it may (barely) cross the line.
 
Wire services reporting Newt's campaign higher-ups are all resigning. That was a quickie campaign....about 1 day.
 
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