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Old 05-20-2011, 02:48 PM   #391
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I would imagine that if Palin were actually going to be elected, there would be at least one person (probably a whole team of people who actually have, you know, experience) running the show and pulling her strings.

Not that it would make us any less fucked, but I don't think she'd actually be in charge of anything. .... right?

But no. She wouldn't win.
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she did win two elections in the BIGGEST state in all of the United States of America. :wavingflag:
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And that person pulling the strings might be someone like John Bolton. My point stands!

I think your main, over-riding problem would be that no one - absolutely no one - would take her/the US seriously, regardless of who is behind her. But yeah, there's no chance she could actually win. I'd be amazed if she lasted a while in the primaries.
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Oh, do people still take us seriously now?
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Approx half of your country, yes.
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Ha.
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all I know
is she will not sell out Israel, like some other non-Christian (who can remain nameless, peace be upon him).
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do you think he'll run?
We'd all be more fucked than you can possibly imagine.

I've lived in this state under that man as governor for 8 years, and I have watched as our school systems have fallen to pieces, as he's leased our toll road out to other countries and pocketed the money for Indianapolis, instead of putting it where it belongs. He is a liar, and I have never felt so much disdain for another human being in all of my life.
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If she runs it's a joke of a process. Yes the Daily Show and Colbert Report will have endless material to keep their shows going for a long time, but ultimately people like Sarah provide nothing, not even a learning lesson to the country of maybe striving to make something of yourself (and even in her case to go from a Journalism degree in however many years to being Gov of a state could have been a cool story) except she's an idiot, and a highly successful one at that.

She's going to pull the same crap as Trump. She'll keep throwing hints out there, but there's no way she can stand up to the press or even handle herself in a debate (the vp debate was one of the saddest displays i've ever seen....a shout out to a highschool???)

The GOP has no one to match Obama and they know it, so they're going to throw all the crazies out now before 2016 comes around.
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You'll be the laughing stock of the planet, and it will only go downhill from there.

Obama crushes her in head-to-head match ups. it would be a 1984 or 1972 style blowout.

i used to think that we could do no worse than Bush, but now we know that we can.
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In large part it's going to be about what's best for Brand Palin, and I'm not sure if Brand Palin is better off running and failing, or not running at all.

Edit: Surely running and failing is better. She can at least then still just bang on about those scared and out of touch elitist bully boys or whatever. Play the victim.
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IF she runs it will be in the VP slot again, I think even she knows she doesn't have the numbers to be the GOP primary winner.
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In large part it's going to be about what's best for Brand Palin, and I'm not sure if Brand Palin is better off running and failing, or not running at all.


right now, Brand Palin is predicated upon the "will she or won't she?" question, and the longer that goes unanswered, the more books she can sell and the more she can show up on Fox for "interviews" (no gotcha questions where they keep "repeatin' her words back to her verbatim.")

my totally uninformed guess would be that she would want to pull a Hillary '08-style campaign. now that Huckabee is out, the social conservatives are up for grabs, and if she can present her entry into the race as being more of a "draft" because the male frontrunner (Romney, Daniles) isn't speaking to social conservatives and telling small town folk that they're the only "real Americans" and thusly God's chosen people, she'll rally those folks and become a cult-like leader, similar to Hillary and the PUMA's from '08. she won't want to actually win, dear God, because she quite clearly has spent the last 3 years increasing her celebrity headspace and not informing herself on the issues, but she wants to ascend to be some kind of Mother of Red State America deity where she can raise the issues she wants to raise, where she can play kingmaker, and where she can plausibly have the ear of a potential Republican administration as the spokesperson for the GOP base.

i don't think she'd want the VP, nor do i think she'd want a job that requires actual work, like SecState. she wants to be a kind of cultural leader, and that would require a strong primary showing where she doesn't win but wins enough hearts and minds that she herself becomes a political-cultural force to be reckoned with.

i think she may have jumped the shark in January with her ghastly response to the Gabby Giffords shooting -- where she decided that she was the greatest victim of that massacre -- made herself totally unelectable in a general election. but now that the race is heating up, there may still be life in the old girl.
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Could Huckabee be a VP? He's not running for several reasons, but some of them are void if it's a matter of only 'checking in' once the real slog (and cost) of a primary campaign are over. It's only a few months, not a year. So only a few months away from Fox or whoever else is paying him, and they'll be there afterwards if they lose. And if they win? He's VP. Most people would give up a dicky show on Fox for that job.

He'll surely get asked. He's got the conservative wing, without all the negativity that comes with Palin. (And BVS, I can't see anyone lining her up for that spot again. That would be pure madness on their part, no matter how much they need her base.)
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Could Huckabee be a VP? He's not running for several reasons, but some of them are void if it's a matter of only 'checking in' once the real slog (and cost) of a primary campaign are over. It's only a few months, not a year. So only a few months away from Fox or whoever else is paying him, and they'll be there afterwards. And if he wins? He's VP. He'll surely get asked. He's got the conservative wing, without all the negativity that comes with Palin. (And BVS, I can't see anyone lining her up for that spot again. That would be pure madness on their part, no matter how much they need her base.)


my guess is no, because he ran for the top job in 2008. but i could be wrong. and i really don't think that he actually wants to be president.

also, it's interesting to note that while Huck and Sarah both speak to the base, they do so in different ways. Huck is pretty much a purebred white evangelical, and while Sarah does have the Christian thing working for her, so much of her appeal is tied up in her whole Caribou Barbie schtick. she's more of a celebrity in the sense that people like to see her as a more idealized version of themselves, whereas no one wants to actually be Huckabee, you know? she's got the looks, the kids, the faux-earthiness, the can-do/you-betcha perkiness, and a mean streak where she seeks vengeance upon those who've done her wrong that plays perfectly into her politics of cultural resentment at these imaginary "elites" (even if she shops at Neimen Marcus just like they do )
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