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You're right. Abortion is depressing as hell. And if you thought a fetus is a human life, as prolifers do, you'd agree about the seriousness of it. That's why it is my main issue when casting my vote for president.

If conservatives would like to talk about preventing unwanted pregnancies before abortion even becomes an issue, I would listen, assuming that the talk covered more than just abstinence.
 
The critical disconnect between preventing abortions and shunning of social programs and welfare that many conservative voters have is pretty entertaining, while we're on the subject.

"Those unwanted, unborn babies conceived out of wedlock to a low-income mother have a right to life! Now that those babies are gonna live, let's make sure that their mothers have no low-cost access to infant care, nor any financial assistance, because obviously they're lazy "wellfare queens" who are only trying to milk the system!!

Oh, yeah, and let's push abstinence-only education to ensure that the cycle of unwanted pregnancies and stupidity continues.
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What fucking world are some people living in where this basic failure to recognize reality exists? And conservatives snipe at liberals for being "out of touch"...reeeeeeeeally?

Let's wait for someone to try and trot out the counter-argument of one single person who came from that kind of background and beat the odds through hard work and American Pride, to offset the huge majority of those who didn't and won't beat the odds.
 
This is a debate for another thread, gang. Start a thread if you must (Abortion Take Infiniti: I'm Not Changing My Mind and Neither Are You), but let's give it a rest in here, okay?
 
You'd think on this trip she might actually learn something about the historical sights she's visiting.
 
Jaysus, there are kids' books about Paul Revere. Available all over the Freedom Trail. Looks like perhaps she should have been taking the tour with the kids instead of signing autographs.

Ring those bells Paul. Or Edge. Whichever.

Listen my children and you shall hear. The ghost of Paul Revere whispering in your ear. "Don't listen to this woman, just go to class. Because she is a dumb *** "

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Gotcha question? :lol: :rolleyes: I guess if you're walking on the Freedom Trail and riding in that America bus, whatever that is..and handing out signed copies of the Constitution it isn't fair game to ask you about the history of it all.

Sam Adams-owns a beer company. John Hancock-insurance guy.
History-make up your own as you go along.


WASHINGTON (AP/The Huffington Post) -- Sarah Palin says she didn't mess up her history on Paul Revere.

The potential 2012 presidential candidate was in Boston on Thursday as part of her bus tour when she was asked about the Revolutionary War hero.

Palin said Revere "warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms."

Palin, a paid Fox News contributor, told "Fox News Sunday" that she was correct. She says there were British soldiers in the area for years before Revere's legendary ride, and that he was warning them, as well as his fellow colonists.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that 'hey, you're not going to take American arms, you are not going to beat our own well-armed persons individual private militia that we have.'"

She blamed her previous answer on the media, saying it was a "gotcha question."

The Paul Revere House's website says that on April 18, 1775, Dr. Joseph Warren instructed Revere to ride to Lexington, Mass., to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them.



I guess they were silent bells..

http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html

In 1774 and the Spring of 1775 Paul Revere was employed by the Boston Committee of Correspondence and the Massachusetts Committee of Safety as an express rider to carry news, messages, and copies of resolutions as far away as New York and Philadelphia.

On the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them. After being rowed across the Charles River to Charlestown by two associates, Paul Revere borrowed a horse from his friend Deacon John Larkin. While in Charlestown, he verified that the local "Sons of Liberty" committee had seen his pre-arranged signals. (Two lanterns had been hung briefly in the bell-tower of Christ Church in Boston, indicating that troops would row "by sea" across the Charles River to Cambridge, rather than marching "by land" out Boston Neck. Revere had arranged for these signals the previous weekend, as he was afraid that he might be prevented from leaving Boston).

On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!" After delivering his message, Revere was joined by a second rider, William Dawes, who had been sent on the same errand by a different route. Deciding on their own to continue on to Concord, Massachusetts, where weapons and supplies were hidden, Revere and Dawes were joined by a third rider, Dr. Samuel Prescott. Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.
 
(CNN) – Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum formally announced his run for the Republican presidential nomination on ABC's "Good Morning America" Monday.

Santorum, who will make an official announcement at 11 a.m. in Somerset, Pennsylvania, said he's "in it to win."
 
Revere and Dawes were joined by a third rider, Dr. Samuel Prescott. Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.

It appears Palin was right about "warning the British". He did it while he was detained. And there was a bell pealing.

Revere, Dawes, and Prescott were detained by a British Army patrol in Lincoln at a roadblock on the way to Concord.[12] Prescott jumped his horse over a wall and escaped into the woods; he eventually reached Concord. Dawes also escaped, though he fell off his horse not long after and did not complete the ride.[18][19] Revere informed the officers of the army's movement from Boston, and that British army troops might be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there.[20] He and other captives taken by the patrol were then escorted east toward Lexington, until the sound of musket fire from the town center alarmed the patrolmen. Revere explained to them that it was probably an arriving militia company that had fired a volley upon its arrival. The sound was followed not long after by the pealing of the town bell.[21]

The above information is from Wikipedia, which got the info from a letter by Paul Revere himself (Massachusetts Historical Society: Online Collections) and from the book Paul Revere's Ride, by David Fischer.
 
Palin believed that he was famous for ringing bells to warn the British. He never rang any bells, and he is not famous for warning the British, he's famous for warning the Americans that the British were coming. Nice try, though. Palin fans have been trying to edit Revere's Wikipedia article for days. Seriously.
 
It appears Palin was right about "warning the British". He did it while he was detained. And there was a bell pealing.

Revere, Dawes, and Prescott were detained by a British Army patrol in Lincoln at a roadblock on the way to Concord.[12] Prescott jumped his horse over a wall and escaped into the woods; he eventually reached Concord. Dawes also escaped, though he fell off his horse not long after and did not complete the ride.[18][19] Revere informed the officers of the army's movement from Boston, and that British army troops might be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there.[20] He and other captives taken by the patrol were then escorted east toward Lexington, until the sound of musket fire from the town center alarmed the patrolmen. Revere explained to them that it was probably an arriving militia company that had fired a volley upon its arrival. The sound was followed not long after by the pealing of the town bell.[21]

The above information is from Wikipedia, which got the info from a letter by Paul Revere himself (Massachusetts Historical Society: Online Collections) and from the book Paul Revere's Ride, by David Fischer.

Why are you scrambling to try and defend Palin, who was making that comment with the same locution as a schoolboy who forgot to do his book report in time for the in-class presentation?

She is so full of shit her eyes are turning brown.

Her only motivation for this run is to stay in the news cycle so she and her daughter can continue to pull down large public lecture fees.
 
Yeah, it's her inability to string a coherent sentence together that I can't believe is still not 'ringing bells' with absolutely everyone. Whether or not she gets the odd fact or historical story right or wrong in the middle of it all should be almost completely irrelevant. But it seems, as long she always peppers her incoherent ramblings with enough of the 10-15 bumper sticker slogans she's learned - even though they, as well, make no sense in relation to what it is she's actually, apparently, talking about - that's good enough, she'd make a great President. :up:
 
Palin believed that he was famous for ringing bells to warn the British. He never rang any bells, and he is not famous for warning the British, he's famous for warning the Americans that the British were coming. Nice try, though. Palin fans have been trying to edit Revere's Wikipedia article for days. Seriously.
You didn't read the actual letter written by Paul Revere, did you?
 
Why would I? It's totally irrelevant. He's not famous for warning the British that the Americans weren't going down without a fight. He's not. She thought he was, because she's horribly uninformed.
 
The above information is from Wikipedia, which got the info from a letter by Paul Revere himself (Massachusetts Historical Society: Online Collections) and from the book Paul Revere's Ride, by David Fischer.



"[Revere] warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms. By ringing those bells and making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."


where does she mention him being captured by the British? further, she makes the summation of his ride about warning the British. riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

but don't worry, her supporters have been trying to edit the Wikipedia page, because American History -- like the Tucson shooting, like Rolling Thunder -- is really about Sarah Palin.

Revision history of Paul Revere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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