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Old 06-11-2005, 08:17 AM   #16
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Because for less than a buck you can prevent a few teenage girls becoming lifetime dependents on state welfare perhaps.
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im not sure..maybe in africa it should go to it because of the seriousness of the situation over there...

as for america? people who dont want to catch sexually transmitted diseases or unwanted pregnancy should practice abstinence. i dont see why in new york, my tax dollars should go to paying for condoms for people. if your grown up enough to wanna have sex so bad than you should be able to pay for condoms. money could be used on cops and firemen and teachers and other stuff, but isntead condoms are given out for free all over the place.
Maybe not your taxmoney but my taxmoney they can use .

It is better than abortions or awfull disseases . Do you actualy know how many people are living under the poverty line in your country ?
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Because for less than a buck you can prevent a few teenage girls becoming lifetime dependents on state welfare perhaps.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:25 AM   #19
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Well, it sounds nice but i don`t get it,...i am not a native english speaker.
Basically it means that Bush as a politician and a good section of the conservative christians talk about opposition to abortion and stem cell research as a "culture of life". But the hypocrisy of that line of thinking is when it means that it cuts money to certain aid agencies and only supporting certain programs (such as abstinence only) it condems some people to death.
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Maybe not your taxmoney but my taxmoney they can use .

It is better than abortions or awfull disseases . Do you actualy know how many people are living under the poverty line in your country ?

its got nothign to do with the poverty line for me.....its about responsibility and condoms arent a 100 percent effective anyway...but hey what the hell lets have 8 year olds havin sex with each other using free condoms, they have an excuse: poverty...lol.
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How responsible can we make people?

It isn't about excuses, it is about human behaviour and the best approach to dealing with it.
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im not sure..maybe in africa it should go to it because of the seriousness of the situation over there...

as for america? people who dont want to catch sexually transmitted diseases or unwanted pregnancy should practice abstinence. i dont see why in new york, my tax dollars should go to paying for condoms for people. if your grown up enough to wanna have sex so bad than you should be able to pay for condoms. money could be used on cops and firemen and teachers and other stuff, but isntead condoms are given out for free all over the place.
Let's stay on topic and stay educated please.
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what do u mean stay educated? i started the thread and if i want, i can bring something else up...and its not totally off topic because were talking about condoms in africa as well...
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what do u mean stay educated? i started the thread and if i want, i can bring something else up...and its not totally off topic because were talking about condoms in africa as well...
Oh, so if you start the thread you can take it off subject whenever you want? I wasn't aware of that rule.

And yes I meant stay educated because teaching abstinence while not allowing sex education doesn't work it's been proven over and over again. That's exactly one of the reasons Africa is as bad as it is. Religion wouldn't and still doesn't allow sex education and so the people are clueless as to the dangers and the precautions to take.
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Yep. Give em condoms. Planeloads of them. If it offends the religious freaks, hey, that's an added bonus.
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I think O'Reilly wrote a nice little piece.
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A culture of life for the unborn trumps those who are condemned to death with AIDS.

And the orphans of AIDS.

Interesting quote:

GODISNOWHERE = God is no where or God is now here.

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Interesting quote:

GODISNOWHERE = God is no where or God is now here.
Hey I didn't even notice that. I just read it as the former. Takes a poet's imagination I guess.
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Hey I didn't even notice that. I just read it as the former. Takes a poet's imagination I guess.

I have a thing for words.....I do it all the time driving...if I see a word on a passing vehicle or a license plate I transpose the letters to form words.

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After reading the subject line I automatically thought of three ideas that O'Reilly would bring up in his "article":

1. The UN is corrupt
2. Entertainers are bleeding heart liberals who don't know how to get things done.
3. Unilateralism from America is the best way foward.

Any O'Reilly being O'Reilly didn't fail to disapoint.

As a point of view, it is a weak mix-and-matched opinion, made solely out of cliched Republican talking points. It's redundant, wrong... and just plain boring.

And as an article it's just as bad. I fail to see what point he is trying to make other than the 3 talking points listed above. To the uninformed right-winger this may be a ray of light, but for most informed right and left wingers this is merely reworded talking point drivel.
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