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Old 08-03-2009, 09:13 PM   #811
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Eh... it's artistic expression. Don't quite agree with what s/he's expressing, but they have a right to express it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:34 PM   #812
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It really, truly shocks me that this birth certificate nonsense still has legs. . .

How can there be so many people in this country that actually buy this?

It makes me embarrassed to me an American. . .
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:29 PM   #813
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I don't get what's bad about it. We've seen plenty worse depictions of Bush the past 8 years, so I don't want to hear anyone say making fun of someone this way crosses a line...

It's probably racist, though, in some way.
I think some might find a reversal "black face" quality about it, but I'm not saying that's right or wrong...

I think the "socialist" label, is just like you said just as bad as those fringe few that painted Bush a "fascist", the difference is; it's not as fringe anymore.
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I don't get what's bad about it. We've seen plenty worse depictions of Bush the past 8 years, so I don't want to hear anyone say making fun of someone this way crosses a line...

It's probably racist, though, in some way.



i just think it's thematically incoherent.

what are the similarities between the Joker in The Dark Knight, and Obama?

like, one is a psychopathic murderer who wants to unleash anarchy and chaos, and the other is criticized for being too cool, too clam, too hyper-rational, too emotionless, too precise and calculating.

an Obama/Spock comparison, say, i could understand. or even less savory characters.

but it seems like this is a graphically compelling poster with absolutely no thought given beyond it's shock value. it's not that it's empty of thought, it's that it's simply inaccurate.

and, yes, i've seen far worse done with Bush, so this really isn't about whining that someone's being mean to Obama.
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I think the picture's attempted message is that Obama has duped America.
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I think the picture's attempted message is that Obama has duped America.
The Joker never had any power to "dupe" anyone. So I think that attempt would be incorrect...
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I think the picture's attempted message is that Obama has duped America.


into accepting socialism?

then why use The Joker?
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into accepting socialism?

then why use The Joker?
It's not what he represented on the campaign trail.

Also, I do find it offensive when artists do unflattering or creepy 'caricatures' of any sitting POTUS.


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It's not what he represented on the campaign trail.

Also, I do find it offensive when artists do unflattering or creepy 'caricatures' of any sitting POTUS.


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When you say something like that, you should probably want to back it up. What did he say on the campaign trail that he did not do/put into action?

Obama is a very moderate president, and he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do on the campaign trail?
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right, but what does that have to do with The Joker?
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It annoys me so much when republicans think that Obama is a socialist...

OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST. GET OVER THE FACT YOU LOST AND GOT YOUR ASS KICKED.
if people think obama is a socialist and worthy of being feared they'd be shit scared of the rest of the world.
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if people think obama is a socialist and worthy of being feared they'd be shit scared of the rest of the world.
Those people generally are.
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Those people generally are.
that occurred to me just after i posted
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Geez, are you guys living in caves or listening to one news source only?

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When you say something like that, you should probably want to back it up. What did he say on the campaign trail that he did not do/put into action?

He said we'd be out of Iraq, we're not.
He said he'd shut down Gitmo-he hasn't.
He said we'd fight the War on Terror much differently we're not.
He said that he would only raise taxes on 5% of the US population, now that's changing-the middle class are about to have their taxes raised, per Tim Geitner.
He said many things that haven't gotten done, and some may see him as a as fooling the American ppl.



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It makes me embarrassed to me an American. . .
I presume you have a legit live birth certificate.
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