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Old 08-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #781
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Normally I'd be skeptical of a poll commissioned by Daily Kos, but Research 2000, the firm which did the polling, is well-regarded by reliable poll analysts like FiveThirtyEight.

Note the regional differences here. From a telephone poll of 2400 adults nationwide last week:


Do you believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States of America or not?

All Yes 77% No 11% Not Sure 12%

Democrats(31%) Yes 93% No 4% Not Sure 3%
Republicans(22%) Yes 42% No 28% Not Sure 30%
Independents(25%) Yes 83% No 8% Not Sure 9%
Other/Refused Affiliation(5%) Yes 80% No 9% Not Sure 11%
Nonvoters(17%) Yes 84% No 7% Not Sure 9%

White(71%) Yes 71% No 14% Not Sure 15%
Black(14%) Yes 97% No 1% Not Sure 2%
Latino(12%) Yes 87% No 6% Not Sure 7%
Other/Refused(3%) Yes 88% No 6% Not Sure 6%

Northeast(21%) Yes 93% No 4% Not Sure 3%
South(30%) Yes 47% No 23% Not Sure 30%
Midwest(27%) Yes 90% No 6% Not Sure 4%
West(22%) Yes 87% No 7% Not Sure 6%
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Old 08-01-2009, 06:06 PM   #782
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how about now? If this is not real than he is an illegal alien and should be deported. Obama is really part of such a huge cover up of his own life after he has been vetted beyond belief. You would think part of the vetting process would include the fact that he was in America illegally

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Old 08-01-2009, 06:46 PM   #783
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What the hell is wrong with people? Is it too much TV?
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I have no idea where Obama was borne, but in terms of his value system, Obama is much more American than the despicable, leeching oligarchs known as the Bush family.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:17 PM   #785
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What the hell is wrong with people? Is it too much TV?
I doubt it, look at the regional breakdown.
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Northeast Yes 93% No 4% Not Sure 3%
South Yes 47% No 23% Not Sure 30%
Midwest Yes 90% No 6% Not Sure 4%
West Yes 87% No 7% Not Sure 6%
The South has a disproportional number of people who are simultaneously white, poorly educated, racist, and conservative; I think that's probably what it comes down to. You wouldn't see those kinds of regional discrepancies if it were only one of those factors in isolation (or TV) driving it.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:45 PM   #786
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My question was more a statement of incredulity rather than an actual question. I tend to blame everything I don't like on people watching too much TV.

But I'm quick to blame the South for things I don't like as well.
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I doubt it, look at the regional breakdown.

The South has a disproportional number of people who are simultaneously white, poorly educated, racist, and conservative; I think that's probably what it comes down to. You wouldn't see those kinds of regional discrepancies if it were only one of those factors in isolation (or TV) driving it.
Is this another example of profiling?
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I am not a 'birther'.

I voted for Obama, I don't care where he was born.

But that Birth Certificate provided is not from 1961.

The State of Hawaii birth certificates from the 1960's used a typewriter. The Green one that is shown on the websites is a computer-generated birth certificate, which did not exist in 1961.

There should be something that looks more like this:

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How come people like Chris Matthews aren't out there complaining about the 7% of Democrats? Don't they make the rest of the Democrats look bad?

Oh yeah, it's only those damn hateful racist Republicans.
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How come people like Chris Matthews aren't out there complaining about the 7% of Democrats? Don't they make the rest of the Democrats look bad?

Oh yeah, it's only those damn hateful racist Republicans.
7% or 58%



There are whackjobs in every group. For this example, in one they're an overwhelming minority. In the other...
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I think most Republicans doubt it out of spite. Same as Dems claiming they believe Bush stole two elections. Just a normal reaction.
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I think most Republicans doubt it out of spite. Same as Dems claiming they believe Bush stole two elections.
Nah, just one election.
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I am not a 'birther'.

I voted for Obama, I don't care where he was born.

But that Birth Certificate provided is not from 1961.

The State of Hawaii birth certificates from the 1960's used a typewriter. The Green one that is shown on the websites is a computer-generated birth certificate, which did not exist in 1961.
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Maybe he's like me and my little sister, between the two of us we've lost our birth certificates probably half a dozen times and have to go downtown to buy new, sealed ones.
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