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Old 07-29-2009, 02:21 AM   #751
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Wow

We have a card carrying member here folks...
Oh I know, it's the fault of poverty and hard times. Debt is out there pulling the trigger every day. I'm not racist though, sorry. I hate people for much deeper reasons.
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Why Won’t Obama Talk to Israelis?
The cynical side of me would say that particularly after Gaza and with recent events in Iran, the US government has not been able to convince the public that direct confrontation with Iran is necessary. If the 'foreign aid' cheques are still clearing, I'd say this is Obama setting the stage for Netanyahu to claim they don't have US support and must take matters into their own hands.

The more optimistic side of me would like to believe Obama, backed by US public sentiment, is supportive of a true two-state solution and won't engage Netanyahu until there is some willingness to consider the settlement freeze.
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I sort of see things the way AliEnvy does.

But it is hard to say because Israel has been so coddled by past U.S. administrations to the point where they take certain American stances and behaviours for granted. Obama seems not to be playing that game.
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Oh I know, it's the fault of poverty and hard times. Debt is out there pulling the trigger every day.
No, it's their skin color pulling the trigger, you're right...

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I'm not racist though, sorry.
I think you proved otherwise.
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mmm... we probably should be focusing more on the outrageous spending and economic issues, rather than non-issues, like this race bullshit.
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But haven't you heard? The recession is over! Obama's a genius!
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:32 PM   #757
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But haven't you heard? The recession is over! Obama's a genius!
Obama never said the recession is over. Only newsweek magazine said it, and they got crap from the obama administration for saying it.

I do think we will see a better/ pretty stable economy by October.
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But haven't you heard? The recession is over! Obama's a genius!
I don't think anyone expected the hole that eight years of Bush put the US in, the worst economic times since the 1930s, to be over so soon. It's going to take time.

Makes me laugh now to see all this blamed on Obama. People seem to have very short memories, like they've forgotten who got them there in the first place.
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Or unemployment will have ticked up by another percent or two by October.
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Or unemployment will have ticked up by another percent or two by October.
Then we'll just get another stimulus to make everything better. After all, Obama warned that without the first stimulus, unemployment might rise above 8%. Look at how accurate and smart this man is. It's breath-taking.
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No, it's their skin color pulling the trigger, you're right...



I think you proved otherwise.
Statistics speak for themselves. I guess if I was racist I'd want them to keep on killing though.
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YouTube - FOX's Glenn Beck Calls President Obama A "Racist"

He went on his radio show and reaffirmed it.
I saw this on the Daily Show tonight. Wow.
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Then we'll just get another stimulus to make everything better. After all, Obama warned that without the first stimulus, unemployment might rise above 8%. Look at how accurate and smart this man is. It's breath-taking.
and McCain, Bush, Romney, the GOP, would do any better given this situation!?!? and things are actually stabilizing right now... it is too early to tell what the stimulus has achieved...but I know many people (including myself) who have been personally effected from the stimulus in a positive way. and If you are going to talk about someone who is "smart" ... you cant get much smarter than Obama. The guy is brilliant, I know personally.

It has been 6 months- give the dems and Obama a chance and see how things are for you next year. I have a feeling though that you will still stick with your beliefs no matter what the facts show. Isn't that what the GOP is all about: "principle" over facts and evidence?
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Then we'll just get another stimulus to make everything better. After all, Obama warned that without the first stimulus, unemployment might rise above 8%. Look at how accurate and smart this man is. It's breath-taking.
bush actually gave us two stimulus packages. given how shittier things got after the first and second, if you're going to blame a president's stimulus for making things worse, it'd be his. given how it's been over a year since his second one, it's been more than enough time for the economy to recover a little. it's been what, six months since obama's? the economy can't turn around that quickly.

however, i should clarify i'm not even saying any of the past stimulus packages have made things worse or anything. just trying to show a little perspective.
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perspective sucks when it gets in the way of your sheepish hate...
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