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Old 05-03-2006, 12:59 PM   #1
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Geographic Literacy

I admit it, I'm terrible at geography. Are there still geography classes in high school and college? I remember some of my favorite toys as a kid were the US map in which you had to place the states and a world globe. I think I need to study again. At least I know where Louisiana is..

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"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After more than three years of combat and nearly 2,400 U.S. military deaths in Iraq, nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map, a study released Tuesday showed.

The study found that less than six months after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, 33 percent could not point out Louisiana on a U.S. map.

The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy Study paints a dismal picture of the geographic knowledge of the most recent graduates of the U.S. education system.

"Taken together, these results suggest that young people in the United States ... are unprepared for an increasingly global future," said the study's final report."


# Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.
# Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.
# Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan.
# Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.
# Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.
# Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East.
# Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.
# Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world.
# Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico.

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nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a map
What does this say about the debate on Iraq?
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What does this say about the debate on Iraq?
Well nothing as far as I know, other than the fact that maybe people aren't being taught where it is on a map. Does Bush know?

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Sorry, I'm too busy with myspace to even care about Iraq
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Well nothing as far as I know, other than the fact that maybe people aren't being taught where it is on a map. Does Bush know?
People not being taught vs. people learning.

I would think the location would have some bearing on the importance of taking action in the region.
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I would think the location would have some bearing on the importance of taking action in the region.


does it really matter where the evildoers who attacked us on 9-11 live?
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# Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.
# Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan.
# Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.
# Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.
# Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East.
# Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.
# Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world.
# Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico.


<i'm 18 and i knew all of those




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# Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.
this show the attitude, they don't want to learn this stuff.

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does it really matter where the evildoers who attacked us on 9-11 live?
Makes it hard to claim that the Administration "misled" the public on the perceived al-Queda/Iraq connection, when such a large percentage doesn't know the difference anyways.
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Makes it hard to claim that the Administration "misled" the public on the perceived al-Queda/Iraq connection, when such a large percentage doesn't know the difference anyways.


or, was it simply that much easier to mislead an intentionally underinformed public?

and shouldn't we say "fabricated" connection?
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or, was it simply that much easier to mislead an intentionally underinformed public?

ding, ding, ding we have a winner!!!
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Should we really celebrate such a low hurdle?
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Should we really celebrate such a low hurdle?

i'm not celebrating at all.

i find it terribly depressing.
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back to geography....

I work with a lot of folks with masters and Phd's in Geography. Spatial awareness is a good thing, especially...

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I got 18/20, as I frankly have no interest in America's immigration rate, and I misunderstood the wording on the katrina question. Anyways. I dont have a brilliant education. But it's enough. I've always found American students seem to learn more varied topics than ours do here, so why a large portion failed this is beyond me.
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I've always found American students seem to learn more varied topics than ours do here, so why a large portion failed this is beyond me.
Maybe it's some school's emphasis on "liberal arts" (colleges and universities I mean, in HS there's no excuse for not taking geography in some form). At my school, there's a required "core" curriculum that's a bit of everything. The problem is, people don't care about core courses so they don't try, don't pay attention, or just don't go. In my core History class we had to memorize geography. It wasn't taught in class, but on the exams there would be about 50 different things we'd have to mark and label on a blank map (cities, rivers, mountain ranges, regions, countries, etc). Most people would fail this part b/c no one bothered to learn the places. I did not have to take a core Geography course, I can't remember why.

I didn't take Geography, per se, in HS, but we had to take Western Civ, World Cultures, and two rounds of American History, all which had a LOT of memorizing maps.

I can't believe people from the US can't point out the states and capitols! We had to get 100% on that test in grade five, or we had to keep taking it until we passed.

This is a pretty worrisome issue to me. It makes Americans like pretty stupid. Yesterday in my HRM class, our guest speaker asked how many people know where Swaziland is and I was the only person to raise a hand.
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