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Old 04-19-2005, 04:10 PM   #16
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I agree with nb's point. Those 10 commandment shirts are dumb. He's right, we all commit crimes against God (i.e. sin) and we all break the commandments from time to time in doing this. (i.e. adultery = lust in your heart).

As a Bible believing Christian, I think we should have shirts that say "Homosexuals: God loves 'em too."
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That's truly the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

Most kids will have broken at least 8 of those commandments by the time they graduate and not one of them has anything to do with being homosexual.
. Ditto every word of this post. Also, apparently they've forgotten that judging whether or not being gay is okay is something that, according to their religion that they follow, should be left up to God, and not them.

All that being said, as long as nobody starts getting violent with each other, if each side wants to continue to wear their shirts, whatever. Like nbcrusader said, we'd just have to hope that constructive dialogue would come from this.

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I think that public schools should start enacting school uniforms.

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The 10 commandment kids are separating themselves out by suggesting some people are committing crimes against God.
Do you believe these kids think they commit crimes against God?
Why make that assumption?

I've never been in a situation where the Ten Commandments are taught as "God's Laws that other people break".
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Old 04-19-2005, 05:08 PM   #20
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I think that public schools should start enacting school uniforms.

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I'm not sure how sarcastic or not this comment is meant to be, but I'm inclined to agree here....
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I'm not sure how sarcastic or not this comment is meant to be, but I'm inclined to agree here....
I was being completely serious. Public schools should not be political forums for any liberal or conservative cause, but institutions of learning. There seems to be a deficiency of "learning" in public schools these days.

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Is there anyone here who thinks that plenty of Christians might choose to wear the shirt that says "gay fine by me" ?

Because you know, there are plenty of us

Sorry, it just feels a little hurtful to think that all Christians are judged by something like this
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I was being completely serious. Public schools should not be political forums for any liberal or conservative cause, but institutions of learning. There seems to be a deficiency of "learning" in public schools these days.

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i wore a uniform till i graduated from high school and i didnt like it. or maybe i did. hell, i dont even know anymore. it definitely gets boring though.
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Why make that assumption?

I've never been in a situation where the Ten Commandments are taught as "God's Laws that other people break".
Do you honestly think the kids wearing those shirts think they are as much the sinners as those "other" kids? Really? In high school? Remember how much you and every other student knew you knew when you were in high school... I'm pretty sure you now realize you didn't know nearly as much as you were absolutely sure you knew when you were a kid. At least I hope you do, because if people know it all (as they tend to think they do) when they are in high school...well...we're doomed.

I really do think they are wearing the shirts to show how much better they think they are.

Personally I think wearing tshirts with any slogan on them is kind of foolish, so I don't (unless I'm at home and the tshirt was free ).
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I've never been in a situation where the Ten Commandments are taught as "God's Laws that other people break".

based upon your posts

and your history i believe what you write is true for yourself.


my experience growing up as a regular church attendee leads my thinking to be more in line with what indra posted
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I agree w/ nbc, I've never been taught that either or heard that in my church ever- we ALL break them, we are all sinners
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I agree w/ nbc, I've never been taught that either or heard that in my church ever- we ALL break them, we are all sinners
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i just thought the thing was amazingly stupid. what a waste of energy.

and i loved the school's comments on the issue -- someone was certainly paying attention when they taught "cover your ass" in high school administration class.

in all honesty, these things get blown out of proportion, and i would imagine 75% of the school couldn't give much of a shit either way -- spring is a tense time, with SATs and college acceptances to worry about.

and, like abortion and other "moral" issues, making an issue out of something that isn't going anywhere -- homosexuality -- is a weapon of mass distraction ... in high school, from learning; in the halls of Congress, from the real, hard, actual work that our country needs to get done.
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I was being completely serious. Public schools should not be political forums for any liberal or conservative cause, but institutions of learning. There seems to be a deficiency of "learning" in public schools these days.

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I agree completely.
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Do you honestly think the kids wearing those shirts think they are as much the sinners as those "other" kids? Really? In high school? Remember how much you and every other student knew you knew when you were in high school... I'm pretty sure you now realize you didn't know nearly as much as you were absolutely sure you knew when you were a kid. At least I hope you do, because if people know it all (as they tend to think they do) when they are in high school...well...we're doomed.
I think we're giving them too much credit. I bet most of the kids on EITHER side don't genuinely give a flying poo about their respective cause, they just want to be part of a group, ANY group, and get a rise out of some classmates. If I were the administration, I'd tell them to hand over the fucking T-shirts and grow up.
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