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Old 01-11-2002, 02:48 PM   #31
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I'm only commenting on why there is a greater percentage of gay men who have that "feminine 'cutesy' voice" when compared to heterosexual men.CK
Whoa there, sonny! I completely disagree here. I do not believe that the majority of gay men have that voice. Maybe that's just the ones you notice?

I didn't say that the majority of gay men have that "voice". If you reread my statement, you will notice that I said there is a greater percentage of gay men who have that voice compared to the heterosexual population. To illustrate:

100 gay men
100 straight men

10 gay men or 10% have that "voice". 2 straight men or 2% have that "voice". That is what I mean when I say there is a greater % of gay men who have that voice compared to straight men.

Why is the % of people who have that "voice" greater for gay men?

I'm hoping your're taking this analysis with a grain of salt. Its obvious I made up the numbers, however, I think I would have some agreement that the % of gay men with that "voice" is higher than the % of straight men.

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Old 01-11-2002, 02:54 PM   #32
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i apologize. i didn't realize this is whole discussion was based on one individual who is gay by way of his voice according to you. i assumed your question was rhetorical and we were referring to the gay community.

Are you being sarcastic? In the openeing statement:
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You ever hear a guy who sounds completely gay? Its that tone, that annunciation (sp) that just tells you that he's gay.
I was trying to present an illustrative example that I feel many people have experienced in their life. I was not generalizing that the whole gay population has this voice. I was referring to the guy in the example.

The discussion is referring to the whole gay community, however, when I say that there is a greater % of gay men with that "voice".

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I pressed the wrong button...was trying to edit a message, but instead replyed and inadvertanly pressed return before it was complete.

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Old 01-11-2002, 04:07 PM   #34
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DROP IT RIGHT NOW, CK!!!

You had better just back off of sicy and leave her alone! She is just trying to do her job as a mod and I think she was being very fair. You don't need to keep challenging her, you are just making yourself look bad. I used to think you were cool but not when you are treating my friend this way. You're being a punk! You're just trying to start trouble.

AND whatever sicy said to you in private should be kept private. You have no business talking about it in a public forum.


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DROP IT RIGHT NOW, CK!!!

You had better just back off of sicy and leave her alone! She is just trying to do her job as a mod and I think she was being very fair. You don't need to keep challenging her, you are just making yourself look bad. I used to think you were cool but not when you are treating my friend this way. You're being a punk! You're just trying to start trouble.

AND whatever sicy said to you in private should be kept private. You have no business talking about it in a public forum.


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It is my opinion that the lisp sounding voice that many gay men possess is due to their surroundings. However, many gay men tend to be overtly feminine. We all know that generally speaking, females have higher speaking tones compared to men. That goes for their singing ranges as well. That's a fact. Nothing wrong with it either way. I compare the gay lisp to other minorities in society and their speaking patterns. Take urban street gangs for example. Surely not all black-teenagers living in the projects speak in "ebonics", but living around people in that culture will certainly have an impact on ANYONE that faces it everyday. I think gays are the same way.
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DROP IT RIGHT NOW, CK!!!

You had better just back off of sicy and leave her alone! She is just trying to do her job as a mod and I think she was being very fair. You don't need to keep challenging her, you are just making yourself look bad. I used to think you were cool but not when you are treating my friend this way. You're being a punk! You're just trying to start trouble.

AND whatever sicy said to you in private should be kept private. You have no business talking about it in a public forum.


Not trying to start trouble

....you're right, I was wrong..private messages should remain private. I thought I could get away with it by not saying what the message was. I erred by even mentioning it. I've edited out that post. My post above was my first attempt at trying to edit it out. I pressed the wrong button.

I don't mean to challenge. Just thought that her saying I had no tact and there is no hope if I don't agree with her was a bit strong, even a challenge on her part, perhaps.

I'm not trying to start trouble....I'm all for letting this side arguement end.

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For once, I agree with TheU2. I don't quite see why it's offensive, either.
Well, for instance, I could ask why many born again Christians seem to act like they've been indoctrinated in a cult. Not all, but many.

I think it has to do with such thing as source and connotation. TheU2 doesn't exactly have the cleanest reputation on this board, so a lot of people assume he's making fun. Hence the reaction.

If I ask the question above on born-again Christians, for instance, it would be assumed that I'm speaking negatively of them, due to my past history, even though it may be a perfectly legitimate question. Hence, if a newbie wrote this thread on a "Gay Voice" or if a newbie wrote that above question on born-again Christians, it would probably be received in a different, not-so negative light.

Am I making any sense here?

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This is over. TheU2 expect an email from me sometime in the next 24hrs... until then.. lay low.

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Only for the reason that TheU2, you have no tact.
Where did I show no tact?

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You really need to work on how you present a question and maybe stop to think that it might indeed offend some people.
If everyone didn't post something because they thought it might offend some people, there would be no discussions/threads on this board.

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It's all how you say things, not always what exactly is said.
Point me where its how I said something that was offensive?

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But since so far it seems the debate is under control, carry on.
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Just think about what I said for next time please.
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I'll bite. Why is this topic so offensive and inappropriate?

As an honest discussion, it may not have too much scholarly merit, but it seems like a fair question to ask.

And as satire, it's no worse than saying that white boys can't jump, white boys got no rhythm, white boys can't handle spicy food, white boys wear ugly golf clothes, etc. etc.

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The start of this thread and my subsequent responses have no satire or sarcasm in them. And I disagree with you regarding the lack of scholarly merit.

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I'm hoping your're taking this analysis with a grain of salt. Its obvious I made up the numbers, however, I think I would have some agreement that the % of gay men with that "voice" is higher than the % of straight men.

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CK, i must admit you are cracking me up with this thread. i'm sitting in my bosses office reading this and the above sentence is just so bloody ridiculous. nothing in particular that you have said is that funny, just the fact that this is taking place.

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Are you being sarcastic?
i guess so. i'm not even sure i know what the hell we're talking about any more...
you're original example referred to one man as nothing more than an example?
however the general flow of discussion, beginning with my assumption and you're own subsequent examples have referred to the gay community as a whole?
i'm i correct in saying that?
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CK, i must admit you are cracking me up with this thread. i'm sitting in my bosses office reading this and the above sentence is just so bloody ridiculous. nothing in particular that you have said is that funny, just the fact that this is taking place.


What's so funny?

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I am not open to discussing this with you CK.

I stand by my original statement and if you dont understand it well there is no hope for you.



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