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Old 11-10-2006, 01:51 PM   #1
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Gay unions legalized for first time in Mexico

By Gunther Hamm

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico City approved homosexual civil unions on Thursday, legalizing gay partnerships for the first time in the world's second-largest Roman Catholic nation.

The capital's municipal assembly, controlled by left-wing legislators, voted for the measure 43-17 as hundreds of rival protesters demonstrated noisily outside the building.

The move paves the way for same-sex civil unions in the city of 8.6 million people early next year.

The local congress in the northern state of Coahuila, bordering Texas, began debating a similar plan this week to legalize gay unions.

"These reforms are going to cause a snowball effect that no one will be able to stop," said David Sanchez of the left-wing Party of the Democratic Revolution, one of the few openly gay national congressmen.

The initiatives in Mexico City and Coahuila are modeled on France's civil code and call for property, pension, inheritance and even co-parenting rights. But they stop short of allowing full marriage or adoption of children.

In 2002, the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires legalized same-sex unions, a move hailed as a first in Latin America.

Outside the assembly hall, gay activists with rainbow-color flags and Christian opponents of the law exchanged barbs.

"It's anti-natural. They are descending into something that is against humanity. Societies have always fallen into decadence when there has been homosexuality and disruption in the family," said protester Humberto Muniz.

Arturo Valadez, 47, a gay musical composer dressed in a monk outfit who has been with his partner for five years, said the assembly's vote was a blow to a socially conservative bastion.

"It's a first step in an ultra-Catholic society that is badly informed and manipulated by right-wing groups and many in the media," he said.

Authorities in Mexico's powerful Catholic Church have condemned gay unions. Some 90 percent of Mexico's 107 million people are Catholics and conservative evangelical groups are also winning adherents. Only Brazil has more Catholics.

Gay union backers say the law does not undermine traditional marriage. They call it a legal contract between two individuals in a homosexual, heterosexual or even platonic relationship.

A spokesman for President Vicente Fox, a practicing Catholic, declined to comment on the Mexico City vote, saying it was a matter for local authorities.
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Maybe W and the GOP should move that boarder fence down to Mexico City. We don't need anymore sinners.
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I was very suprised to hear this. I'm impressed.
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Well 2/3 NAFTA countries got it right!
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I'm glad that Mexico City held an actual vote. A legitimate outcome - good for them. What about Massachusetts? Will the Mass Legislature hold a vote? Where does Deval Patrick stand?

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov...rriage,00.html
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Congrats to mexico , maybe true equality can be the buzz word of the 21st century.
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I'm glad that Mexico City held an actual vote. A legitimate outcome - good for them. What about Massachusetts? Will the Mass Legislature hold a vote? Where does Deval Patrick stand?

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Nov...rriage,00.html


yes, because it's your opinion that should decide whether or not i am entitled to the same rights as you. civil rights have always been about popularity contests.

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Deval Patrick supports gay marriage

Mitt Romney wants a vote because it suits his political aspirations-Mitt and a few desperate stragglers who insist on making it an issue. The majority of people in MA DO NOT CARE and support gay marriage and do not need or want to vote on it.
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Romney wants a vote because it suits his political aspirations-Mitt and a few desperate stragglers who insist on making it an issue. The majority of people in MA DO NOT CARE and support gay marriage and do not need or want to vote on it.
It does support Romney's interests in the presidency. His position is similiar to John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Evan Bayh, Wes Clark, Barak Obama, and John Kerry. But I'm not really interested in that sort of inside baseball right now.

170,000 petitioners cared enough for the Legislature to vote on it, and ultimately for the people to vote on the issue in 2008.

Massachusetts' Legislature had the Constitutional obligation to take up this amendment, and 109 lawmakers chose to go into "recess" instead. The vote was constitutionally required.
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It does support Romney's interests in the presidency. His position is similiar to John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Evan Bayh, Wes Clark, Barak Obama, and John Kerry. But I'm not really interested in that sort of inside baseball right now.

170,000 petitioners cared enough for the Legislature to vote on it, and ultimately for the people to vote on the issue in 2008.

Massachusetts' Legislature had the Constitutional obligation to take up this amendment, and 109 lawmakers chose to go into "recess" instead. The vote was constitutionally required.
Can we also bring up, in addition to the fact that civil rights shouldn't be put to a vote, that the groups collecting these signitures have in the past been shown to use very dubious (read: illegal and unethical) methods?
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the groups collecting these signatures have in the past been shown to use very dubious (read: illegal and unethical) methods?
Could you please elaborate?

Also, how many of the 170,000 signatures would you consider to be illegitimate?
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If everything was up to a vote, Rosa Parks would probably still be at the back of that bus.
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If everything was up to a vote, Rosa Parks would probably still be at the back of that bus.
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