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Old 08-10-2005, 01:45 PM   #31
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Arlington has none. 350,000 people and no public transportation.
You mean they link Dallas to downtown Fort Worth and there still aren't any stops in Arlington? Damn.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:49 PM   #32
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It would have raised our sales tax rate, so they pretty much had to let us vote.

3 times this city voted no.

3 TIMES.

AARGH.
I think that's because Arlington still has a very independent small town stuck between 2 cities mentality. I think they fear being lumped in with Dallas or Fort Worth. At least that's kinda the mentality I remember from when I lived there.
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Frankly, I don't buy it. Gas prices consistenly go higher over highly irrational events, like over the death of King Fahd, whose successor was the one who was actually ruling over Saudi Arabia over the last ten years!

That tends to show evidence of speculation over actual supply and demand. The oil industry is currently raking in record profits.

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Part of this is a failure of the media. Little, irrational events may affect futures prices (which are reported), but not the actual price of crude (which is not reported).

Our corner gas stations will raise prices on such a perception (and they are always slower to lower the prices).


On a related note, I am almost finished with a book that questions Saudia Arabia's future oil supply. If you want to see a real price shock, wait until we get the news that the supply may only be 5-10 years, instead of the 70+years we always hear.
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You mean they link Dallas to downtown Fort Worth and there still aren't any stops in Arlington? Damn.
Fort Worth has the Trinity Railway Express, a train that connects Dallas and Forth Worth, which has one stop in Arlington. But it won't take you around Arlington.
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Fort Worth has the Trinity Railway Express, a train that connects Dallas and Forth Worth, which has one stop in Arlington. But it won't take you around Arlington.
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I think that's because Arlington still has a very independent small town stuck between 2 cities mentality. I think they fear being lumped in with Dallas or Fort Worth. At least that's kinda the mentality I remember from when I lived there.
It's not that way anymore. Our Mayor tries to bring every single major event he can to Arlington. He was behind the push to get the Cowboys stadium built here. He even persuaded the city council to put in a bid for the 2012 olympics.

I really don't like Arlington any more. When I first moved here (1972), it was a small town. I started to really dislike it in the mio 90s - too much traffic.

When did you move away?
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It's not that way anymore. Our Mayor tries to bring every single major event he can to Arlington. He was behind the push to get the Cowboys stadium built here. He even persuaded the city council to put in a bid for the 2012 olympics.

I really don't like Arlington any more. When I first moved here (1972), it was a small town. I started to really dislike it in the mio 90s - too much traffic.

When did you move away?
Well moved to Dallas in 01 and then Chicago in 04. I lived right by Six Flags so it was easy for me to get on 30 and commute to work which was in FW and my girlfriend and friends in Dallas.
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I still don't have time to reformat these figures properly (click on the link for the actual table if you want to see a more readable version), but this is an interesting stat regarding gasoline prices:

Here's an interesting figure (from http://www.trouw.nl/rubriek/1123070046158.html all the rest is in Dutch, but the figure is in English):
Price in EUR per liter

Country City aug-05

Turkey Istanbul € 1,598
Netherlands Amsterdam € 1,409
Norway Oslo € 1,350
United Kingdom London € 1,314
France Paris € 1,250
Belgium Brussels € 1,242
Germany Frankfurt € 1,189
Denmark Copenhagen € 1,186
Portugal Lisbon € 1,184
Lebanon Beirut € 1,177
Japan Tokyo € 1,108
Spain Madrid € 1,045
Finland Helsinki € 1,029
Ireland Dublin € 1,029
Czech Republic Prague € 1,001
Romania Bucharest € 1,001
Switzerland Geneva € 0,965
Bulgaria Sofia € 0,855
Greece Athens € 0,829
Serbia Belgrade € 0,793
Cuba Havana € 0,788
Brazil Brasilia € 0,772
Canada Toronto € 0,645
Taiwan Taipei € 0,644
United States Los Angeles, CA € 0,622
Nicaragua Managua € 0,589
South Africa Johannesburg € 0,522
Russia Moscow € 0,505
Panama Panama City € 0,493
Puerto Rico San Juan € 0,422
China Beijing € 0,401
Syria Damascus € 0,378
Nigeria Lagos € 0,297
Kuwait Kuwait City € 0,185
Egypt Cairo € 0,179
Venezuela Caracas € 0,037
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Comparing them on price by litre basis is the best way to do it as confusingly the US gallon is a different standard of measurement to the Imperial gallon that we use in the UK/Ireland.
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I think the whole "well, Europe pays a whole lot more than we do" is pretty pointless. Many, many parts of the U.S. are so vast and open(which Europe isn't too much anymore) that we have to drive a LOT. I mean, there is no public transportation in rural U.S.; only in larger metropolitan areas. I live on the border of Minnesota and Wisconsin and know many people that have to drive 60-80 miles per day. My first teaching job last yearI was driving 110 miles per day because there was simply nowhere around that little town to live. So I don't feel like I'm being selfish a bit when I complain about high gas prices.
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Don't think we don't have to drive those distances to go to work here.
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So I don't feel like I'm being selfish a bit when I complain about high gas prices.
My point in comparing U.S. gas prices to European gas prices is that Europeans got smart about their choice of vehicles a long time ago due to their high cost of gas while Americans are still buying gas guzzling monsters and complaining about the increase in the price of gas.
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My point in comparing U.S. gas prices to European gas prices is that Europeans got smart about their choice of vehicles a long time ago due to their high cost of gas while Americans are still buying gas guzzling monsters and complaining about the increase in the price of gas.
I agree.

What will we (in the US) do about rising gasoline prices? We'll bitch and moan for a while, and then we'll get used to it. Just as everyone else has.
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It cost me $71.07 to fill my mini van on Monday. Since then the price has gone up 3 cents a litre : ouch:
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I just paid $51 for my old Explorer

and that was at Costco!

(costco is always $0.05 - $0.10 cheaper)
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