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Old 06-24-2006, 08:52 AM   #16
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Honestly the main reason I like this forum is that I feel ignored/out of place in the rest of Interference. There are things I don't like about it too though- I have no desire for vitriol or abuse or to argue in an angry manner or incessantly with people, especially about the same old topics that follow the same old pattern. I like to see a "more human, less robotic" side of this place, and that doesn't always happen. I try. I like to get beyond preconceived notions and stereotypes. I don't like nastiness.

I like to read what others have to say, and to think about it. For the most part I do enjoy this forum, as much as I've tried to quit it sometimes for one reason or another. Some things bother me, one in particular, but those are best kept private. I let things get to me that I shouldn't, but I'm a sensitive person and find it impossible to pretend that I'm not or to be any other way.

If you gravitate to people in non-cyber life who share your views for the most part, it's enjoyable to have somewhere to go where that isn't always the case.

I'm grateful for the people I've gotten to know through here who are so kind to me and who continue to be so, and who appreciate me as a person. I appreciate them too. You can develop a lovely relationship with people you just e-mail, well I find that I can.

And I'm grateful for those who bother to reply to my threads here, and those who give me kind words here. I appreciate that very much too, it's nice to feel that you matter even if it's on a message board.
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Old 06-24-2006, 02:04 PM   #18
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It may not sound very inspiring at first glance, but I think the major lesson I've learned from 2 years of hanging out here is that satisfying and productive conversation online *really is* possible--and that when it's good, it's every bit as memorable and exciting as the best "real-world" conversation. I do still browse a few other boards on occasion--political ones, Jewish-interest, scholarly sites--and honestly, 80%+ of the discussions on them just seem worthless compared to here, IMO. All seem overrun with either A) depressingly vapid people with so little of interest to contribute that I'm amazed they bother, or B) smart, but horribly abrasive and caustic types who just seem there to attack, or C) impressively knowledgeable folks who are, unfortunately, so suffocatingly turgid and dull that my eyes glaze over before I make it through a single screen.

I don't know what it is about FYM, but we just do seem to collect the most memorable and intriguing personality ensembles here, people who play off each other in a way that's almost always a pleasure to jump into...or sometimes just to watch. I'm amazed by how vivid and strong the impressions I carry around in my head of most of the regulars around here are...most of them even include "visuals," lol--which I'm sure are hysterically off-base in most cases, but I can't help it! It's never a bunch of words on a screen that I find myself scowling, furrowing my brow, gaping in surprise, or laughing affectionately at...it's always a person, a thoroughly familiar presence that's every bit as real and immediate to me as most people I "actually" know. I don't know how to account for why it all works out, but this place is special.
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Old 06-24-2006, 03:12 PM   #19
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That's awesome, yolland.
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I like to visit this forum because I learn a lot from the opinions and the debates from others... My opinions aren't very valueable (because I live in the bubble of my childish dreams ) but it is good to hear intelligent thoughts about important issues, and see the different faces of each one of them.
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:25 PM   #21
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I have not had the opportunity here to post as much as want to (I am THE WORST one for long posts.... )..but if did, I'm sure I'd be the most famous for spouting off on Middle Eastern history, American history, or history in general. Like Dread, I'm a history buff and he got a little taste of my style when the Iraqi Constitution debuted last fall...(and chalk me up to one of those you "tried to meet:, Dread...we missed each other at a Boston show last October by an hour when my stupid train was late....but then your friend's kid was spared being polluted by the thoughts of a liberal......
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And yes, the breastfeeding thread was, I have to admit, one of the true epics of this site. I printed all of it out, and have it still. Thanks, Dread.

What I get here, I guess, is a sense of community that comforts me profoundly when I feel that the world is sinking deeper into Dante's Frozen Mosh Pit each day. When the worst stories come out over the wires, my immediate reaction is, 'I wonder what ___ on FYM thinks of this." I know that no matter how discouraging the news may be, I'm not experiencing it and reacting to it alone. This is the reaction I've always had with U2...sometimes just the thought that they're all out there, walking (and flying) around the same world I am and somewhere they're lighting up the world by just being around. It's a situation that won't last forever, but just having them around, even at a time like now, far between albums and tours, comforts me immedsely and gives me hope. it really is like a "miracle drug". And that's what it's all about, really. Community, and the sense that we're all in this together. I remember the Katrina thread. Seeing what I saw on TV every day, and then just haivng a place to "come" to and endure the tragedy every day even though I was far away from the events, made it endurable. Heck, to my Turkish friend out there (if he is still around) I even fondly remember the brief spat we had about the Turkish author who dared to mention Armenians...

I know this is a somewhat sobering, even bleak, view, but my life's been bleak lately. Since my mother's suicide 3 days before Halloween last year, I have been on the Net a lot less, as I struggle to deal with my own Katrina-like aftermath, which the man who used to be my stepfather has not made any easier, for my sister or I. I expected my life to at least stabilize in the 7 months since, but this has not been so. I have not wanted to burden any of you with my personal problems. On the other hand, it was on this site (though not on FYM) that I "met" the person who is one of two or three that have my life bearable over the past few months. Truly a Godsend. I've become more of a lurker here, I admit. I haven't wanted it that way....And talking about my favorite subject, the War, would make it worse....(three weeks before, I had been staring up at Edge from 10 feet away at Madison Square Garden, how strange....) But like I said, all of you have been a great comfort.

I'm sorry I can't say more, but I think that in terms of the community, you can alla gree. Thank you all so much...even the people I don't agree with, you are very insightful. I have been on this site for 2 1/2 yrs (I thinK) and here for maybe a year. I don't regret it a bunch.

Really, I say....God (or Goddess, or whatever Diety you worship....). bless you all.
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In a lot of ways, FYM is like being back in college again. (I went to a pretty progressive university.) I've enjoyed the rigors of intellectual debates, the personal moments that fuse those discussions with humanity, and the opportunity to grow from being challenged. While I can't say that all of my perspectives have changed, I can say that they have certainly expanded.

I think some of the things I've learned have included the brokenness we all have -- the baggage we all carry. Let's face it -- so many of our posts are based on our own experience. I've hopefully learned to be more respectful -- to be mindful of the fact that my words can sometimes communicate more than I mean them to.

Thanks guys.

Now back to the bloodbath!
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I like to visit this forum because I learn a lot from the opinions and the debates from others... My opinions aren't very valueable (because I live in the bubble of my childish dreams ) but it is good to hear intelligent thoughts about important issues, and see the different faces of each one of them.
Muggsy, your opinions are just as important as everyone else's. We'd love to hear your perspective.
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Old 06-25-2006, 03:43 PM   #24
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Though I dont post here much anymore, because Im so busy, I still tend to drop by daily and read what is going on. I dont like to get involved with a discusion if Im unable to answer back.

I've been coming here for 6 years, Jesus, 6 years! Man its been a long time. There have been people that have been and gone and come back then left then returned, but all in all this board is something special. It has that feeling of a private members club, a cool-progresive-say-whatever-you-want type attitude. And no subject is off limits.

The thing that has stuck with me forever with regards to FYM happened about 4 years ago or so.

I think melon was new here and was trying to enlighten FYM on the homophobia that exists in the western world. Me a young know it all took him to task. Trying to use the same tired excuses of why homosexuality was evil, he ripped me apart. I still remember him going bananas on me and me getting pissed off. I thought and thought about it, until finally i was down at the bar with my old man and the conversation came up about gay marriage, and me with my infinate knowledge(ha) decided to pipe up. I used the same arguements i did with melon, and my Dad looked over to me and said 'what the fuck do you care, they arent asking to get married in your Church' and i just shut-up and thought about the thread that melon started. It wasnt long after that I aquired a friend that was lesbian, me not thinking she was a lesbian hit on her, didnt work out, but now I really know what melon had to go through because I can see it with my own eyes in my best friend.

For that one thing I have been swayed, and many others, I am as grateful for this place as anyone.

Thanks, melon.
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The thing that has stuck with me forever with regards to FYM happened about 4 years ago or so.

I think melon was new here and was trying to enlighten FYM on the homophobia that exists in the western world. Me a young know it all took him to task. Trying to use the same tired excuses of why homosexuality was evil, he ripped me apart. I still remember him going bananas on me and me getting pissed off. I thought and thought about it, until finally i was down at the bar with my old man and the conversation came up about gay marriage, and me with my infinate knowledge(ha) decided to pipe up. I used the same arguements i did with melon, and my Dad looked over to me and said 'what the fuck do you care, they arent asking to get married in your Church' and i just shut-up and thought about the thread that melon started. It wasnt long after that I aquired a friend that was lesbian, me not thinking she was a lesbian hit on her, didnt work out, but now I really know what melon had to go through because I can see it with my own eyes in my best friend.
That's great, thanks for sharing that
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Muggsy, your opinions are just as important as everyone else's
Yes they are, don't ever think they aren't muggsy

I love how you said you live in the bubble of your childish dreams, I do in some ways too. Nothing wrong with that.
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I just wanted to add a thank you to everyone who listens and who talks. As frustrating as we all find this place, we still enjoy it enough to come back.

Special thanks to the Marthas', B'sS, MrsS and BVS.
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