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Old 06-15-2003, 11:58 AM   #1
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Fundamentalist Christianity

I've heard a lot, an awful lot, in this forum about the evil fundamentalist, conservative Christianity. However, I'm not sure I've ever heard any definitions of what the people who say this think that "good, non fundamentalist, liberal Christianity" is. I call myself a fundamentalist conservative Christian because I believe that the Bible is all true and I believe in Biblical moral values.

My question for all people who identify themselves as Christianity, but who have something against "fundamentalists" .. what is your definition of true Christianity?
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as a catholic, i do not read the bible literally. there are too many contradictions, and i believe the humans writing the bible and interpreting the word of God were just as flawed as me.

i attempt to live as Christ would, to love ALL others as i love myself.

i'm not sure if others would see this as the true definition but it's my definition.
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"Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. The commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet,' and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this saying, (namely) 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law." -- Romans 13:8-10

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Matthew 22:36-39 - "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

What is the difference between loving others as a Christian and loving others for the sake of loving others? And do we get to define what love is? Or do we look to Scripture to define love for us?
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What nbcrusader posted.
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Matthew 22:36-39 - "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

What is the difference between loving others as a Christian and loving others for the sake of loving others? And do we get to define what love is? Or do we look to Scripture to define love for us?
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'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"
This is my definition of Christianity. I am this before I am a denomination, before I'm an American, before I am anything else.
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I like this quote, by Mother Teresa.

"I believe in person to person. Every person is Christ for me, and since there is only one Jesus, that person is the one person in the world at that moment."
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as a catholic, i do not read the bible literally. there are too many contradictions, and i believe the humans writing the bible and interpreting the word of God were just as flawed as me.

i attempt to live as Christ would, to love ALL others as i love myself.

i'm not sure if others would see this as the true definition but it's my definition.

you said exactly what I was going to say
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What is the difference between loving others as a Christian and loving others for the sake of loving others? And do we get to define what love is? Or do we look to Scripture to define love for us?
Good questions, nb. I think this is where the definitions of what makes a "True Christian" start to blur. A fundamentalist might say "Well, to love someone as I love myself, I need to share the gospel with that person, because they can receive no greater gift than God." I'm an episcopalian. I think giving time and money to charity is more important that verbalizing my belief in God to other people. I think showing compassion to those who need it speaks volumes more about God's love than sharing the four spiritual laws with them.
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Aren't these things both of God. Isn't the person spreading the word part of the nature of God revealing himself to his creation, while the doing unto others and providing compassion another facet, or trait of God. They do not have to be opposite or in conflict with each other, they can both be of God.
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But as a non-Christian, the love and compassion thing speaks so much louder that the proselytizing thing. If you can love me as a fellow human without feeling the need to "witness" and convert, then I can respect and listen better.


Now I'll butt out of a thread where I do not belong.
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Aren't these things both of God. Isn't the person spreading the word part of the nature of God revealing himself to his creation, while the doing unto others and providing compassion another facet, or trait of God. They do not have to be opposite or in conflict with each other, they can both be of God.
This is a question that keeps popping up in several threads here. My only answer is this; it depends on the manner in which it's executed.

Here in Dallas I live in an area right outside of the downtown area where there are a few blocks of shops, bars, nightclubs, and a pretty good live music scene. So I can walk from my loft to the clubs. Every weekend you have groups of people waiting for "the heathens" to walk out of the bars so they can witness to them. They preach to them about drinking, fornicating, etc. I've talk to a few of them at length and they just don't get it. They have already judged every single individual that walks out of these establishments. They judge and then they spread(cram) their distorted message to the masses.

Yes sharing your experience is important, but you don't do like this. I see these people wear these W.W.J.D. bracelets and it's been mentioned in this thread that they try to live their life like Jesus would have. But Jesus didn't witness like this. I can't think of one story in the Bible where Jesus approached an unrequesting person and start telling them about the Kingdom.

This is why the Christian Coalition, I believe is one of the furthest organizations from Christianity. They judge and force without living by example.
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