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Old 09-06-2005, 06:44 PM   #46
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That sounds about right.

Bigot.

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Saying that is just as valid a point as saying that you're a bigot for not agreeing with everything everyone else believes.

I suppose it's at a point here where having your own opinion means you are a bigot. Way to promote facism, jerk.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:58 PM   #47
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Saying that is just as valid a point as saying that you're a bigot for not agreeing with everything everyone else believes.

I suppose it's at a point here where having your own opinion means you are a bigot. Way to promote facism, jerk.
I will pray for your amoral, blackened soul.

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I will pray for your amoral, blackened soul.

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You don't strike me as the praying type.
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You don't strike me as the praying type.
Neither do you.

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You don't strike me as the praying type.
Now we can read hearts?
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:05 PM   #51
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Now we can read hearts?
Such is the claim of the Antichrist.

Pray that he does not claim to read your heart as well. Be on the vanguard against Satan!

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"Divine revelation, not reason, is the source of all truth." - Tertullian of Carthage (A.D. 150-225)

Ancient Greece understood that the Earth was round and revolved around the Sun, but "divine revelation" said otherwise. After all, "reason" is the product of Satan.

St. Augustine insisted that "divine revelation" was so powerful as to supercede Jesus or even the New Testament, if necessary.

A Deo et Rege.

St. Augustine stipulated, through his worship of "divine revelation" that although the earthly city was the very opposite of the heavenly city, it was a reality that people must face. Christians could not reject their city entirely, but must bend it to fit a Christian pattern. The city that someday would rise from the ruins of Rome must be based upon Christian principles. Warfare, economic activity, education, and the rearing of children should all be conducted in a Christian spirit. Although the City of Man was ever evil, imperfect, and of no consequence in comparison to the City of God, it was not about to disappear and be replaced by the Kingdom of God on earth. The church could not neglect the state, but must guide it to protect human beings from their own sinful natures. The state must employ repression and punishment to restrain people, who were inherently sinful, from destroying each other and the few good men and women that God had elected to save from hell. It was in "warfare" and terror this perversion of Jesus' Church would excel.

Adversus solem ne loquitor. Amantes sunt amentes.

"Beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of hell." - St. Augustine, "DeGenesi ad Litteram"

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by VertigoGal
neverman, I don't really understand your perception of freedom. You're against censorship, which, although restrictive, is in place to prevent parents having to worry about their kids seeing porn. However, you're all for national health care and university programs which result in fewer economic freedoms, but are in place to prevent you having to worry about paying for those things. Is there a difference between personal and economic freedoms?

Or maybe you'd like the tax rate to stay the same, and simply have it spent on something other than fighter jets, in which case I'd agree with you.
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The way the Canadian system works is best..there are 2 sales taxes, one which pays for the healthcare....so, depending on how much you buy, is how much you pay for your healtcare. Our tax system in the states favors the top 1 or 2 % or the wealthiest citizens...this needs to stop...this is a govt. by the elite for the elite lately it seems. And yes, I'd love to see money spent on something other than instruments of death and destruction. I also think personal and economic freedoms do go hand in hand together.
As Bono wrote " The rich stay healthy..the sick stay poor..." Unfortunately, that seems to ring true. We can change that to where all people can stay healthy and fed.....someday it MIGHT happen...I hope Thanks for the excellent question ..causing me to even question myself..much appreciated. OH and about the censorship issue.......PARENTS should be in place to prevent kids from seeing porn. PARENTS should make sure the kids don't seeit..imho
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