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Old 03-22-2003, 03:54 PM   #76
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This is why I want to move to my own planet.
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This is disgusting beyond belief. This is indeed a hate crime and there is never any excuse for a hate crime.
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In the cafe at my school, there were signs saying that they were selling "Freedom Fries." I was so pissed that I sent an e-mail to the director of dining services and the college president too, saying that as an institution of higher learning we shouldn't be taking part in petty anti-French-ism.

Needless to say, the signs have been taken down.
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Iraq War Sparks Francophobia in Texas
Saturday, March 22, 2003
By Scott Gold Los Angeles Times
HOUSTON — Francoise Thomas emigrated from France 23 years ago and nestled into a slice of Americana, selling real estate in the master-planned community of Kingwood, home to duck ponds, bridge clubs and canopies of shade trees. “Even the service stations are beautifully landscaped!,” one local advertisement declares.

Never, she said, did she expect to fall victim to a hate crime because of her nationality. Then again, she never thought members of Congress would rename French fries. She never thought restaurant owners would gain favorable publicity by dumping Dom Perignon down the toilet.

So perhaps it should have come as no surprise, Thomas said with a meek shrug, when she walked out of her home last weekend to discover that vandals had spray-painted this message on her garage door: “Scum go back to France.”

“It happened this past Saturday,” said Thomas, 66, who lives with her cat in a condominium 22 miles north of downtown Houston. “I got up, and it was garbage day. I went to get my garbage can at 6:30 in the morning. It was a beautiful morning. I turned around and saw it, in huge red letters. It was a very nasty experience.”

Thomas grew up in the tiny, medieval French village of Uzerche, which stands atop a hill in a crook of the Vezere River, in central France near Limoges.

During World War II, when she was a girl, her mother Madeleine became a highly decorated member of the French Resistance. Madeleine’s job: To rescue American pilots shot down by German troops, nurse them back to health and sneak them to safety in Spain. Nazis eventually captured her and sentenced her to death, but did not have time to execute her before the end of the war, Thomas said.

“Did you tell them what I did?” Madeleine, who still lives in France, asked her daughter when told of the graffiti incident.

“I don’t think anyone cares about that anymore,” Thomas told her mother with a chuckle.


Governments across the globe have denounced the U.S. invasion of Iraq as a myopic, reckless war that will leave behind immense instability. Many Americans have grown increasingly intolerant of people who oppose the invasion, and much of their anger has been directed at France, an outspoken critic. French President Jacques Chirac has said the war will cause “serious consequences for the future,” and one recent poll showed overwhelming support for that position among his constituents.

“Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion,” reads one joke that has been widely circulated on the Internet. Several members of Congress recently took time out of their busy schedules to march down to the mess hall, where they renamed French fries “freedom fries.” A movement to rename the French Quarter in New Orleans appears to have started as a joke — then picked up steam among residents who took it quite seriously.

Thomas blames ignorance — and television commentators such as Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly, who has proposed a boycott of French goods — more than hate.

“Bill O’Reilly has vomited on the French for so long that anyone who watches him feels they must do the same,” she said. “People think you have to hate the French people because they don’t always agree with the United States. That’s ridiculous.”

O’Reilly could not be reached for comment.

Thomas’ neighbors have descended on her home this week. Friends she hadn’t heard from in years sent chocolates and cards of support. Contractors she worked with while selling homes kept showing up at her door to help. It was a good thing they did: They had to repaint her garage door four times before the graffiti was finally hidden.


Houston police are investigating the incident as a hate crime, and Houston FBI spokesman Bob Doguim confirmed Friday that federal authorities are also involved in the probe.

“We’re going to get involved in any kind of case like this,” Doguim said. “It’s something we take very seriously.”
How awful!

Real mature on the part of the vandals. .

Idiots.

And O'Reilly's an idiot, too.

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I hope humanity wakes up one day from all its intolerance, hate, and ignorance.

So do I.
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I do too. There are too many idiots and jerks out there. Stop the hate campaign!
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Heh, thanks.

I bet that one made the college prez's Friday morning.
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In the cafe at my school, there were signs saying that they were selling "Freedom Fries." I was so pissed that I sent an e-mail to the director of dining services and the college president too, saying that as an institution of higher learning we shouldn't be taking part in petty anti-French-ism.

Needless to say, the signs have been taken down.
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if I go back to school tomorrow and they're still serving freedom fries I'm going to follow your example
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I really thought this was an isolated thing, involving those Congress loons and maybe a few other small restaurants. Never would I imagine this in a University. Jeez.
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people get all bent out of shape and cry "how horrible" when some stupid, ignorant vandal spray paints something about the French. This is good. I think it is dispicable. BUT... We don't hear a word when there are "peace" protestors out burning pictures of George Bush saying down with him and Americans for that matter. they are just as ignorant and even more hostile in my view. I am an Indepent and would consider myself moderately liberal. I can't stand George Bush, so it isn't about that. I just think that people should pay more attention the ignorance that is abounding everywhere.

and yes Freedom Fries is ridiculous. - even though I think France or should I say Chirac is being a bit of an ass. It doesn't excuse being anti-French.
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people get all bent out of shape and cry "how horrible" when some stupid, ignorant vandal spray paints something about the French. This is good. I think it is dispicable. BUT... We don't hear a word when there are "peace" protestors out burning pictures of George Bush saying down with him and Americans for that matter. they are just as ignorant and even more hostile in my view. I am an Indepent and would consider myself moderately liberal. I can't stand George Bush, so it isn't about that. I just think that people should pay more attention the ignorance that is abounding everywhere.

and yes Freedom Fries is ridiculous. - even though I think France or should I say Chirac is being a bit of an ass. It doesn't excuse being anti-French.
I agree, *all* of the hate is really bad stuff. It doesn't do any good to burn flags or pictures of Bush. I'm all for freedom of speech. I don't like Bush, either. I don't have to. But I do not plan to burn any pictures of him or anything of the sort. I think it's stupid.
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Hello,

I think this next step also belongs in this thread. I always thought that renaming French fries (or French toast) into Freedom... was petty and childish. If you want to do it, do it all the way.
Thankfully, some thought about other French influences that need to be removed from American soil. So therefore: Send Back the Statue of Liberty !

Now, if only some would have the idea to send back the US constitution (based on the French constitution (and apparently also on the Dutch government)), then the USA would truly be less stained by rotten French influences.

C ya!

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