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Old 10-03-2003, 06:33 AM   #31
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Afterall, Rush defended in one of the other pre-game shows there are not enough black coaches in the NFL.
I meant to mention that the week before his commentary was on this!!!!


Where was the media just seven days earlier(or 14 memory slacking) when Rush was standing there on the same program saying that there were not enough African American coaches?


So is he a racist or isn't he? Kind of contradictory.


If I said this though:

[Q]"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a white runningback do well. There is a little hope invested in Alstott, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."[/Q]

Let's assume this was a quote about Mike Alstott of Tampa Bay and we were talking about the runningback position. Would this have been RACIST? or an observation that there are very FEW white runningbacks in the NFL therefore Alstott gets a bounce in the way the media covers him.
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He even told a caller to "take the bone out of your lip and then call me back"
I guess that's what ESPN meant by saying they hired him to be "provocative" They clearly knew what they were potentially facing..

He's ignorant
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Here's the deal. I think what he said was badly worded. Some people had a negative reaction to it. I think the smart thing to do would have been to address it and just say "Hey, I was criticizing the media, not McNabb." One simple sentence. But no, he refuses to even clarify his statement. He's trying to be made out like some martyr. Like we don't all see that having everyone throw up their arms and cry about how we've become too PC is playing right into his agenda.

Like I said before, I don't think he should have quit or been fired. But I also won't become his puppet or loudspeaker for anti-PCness. A simple clarification or a nice debate with his colleagues would have been nice.
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He did say "I was criticizing the media, not McNabb"

The finger pointers were not listening. They wanted to make this something more as an exercise of power.

Too bad the PC crowd won't examine their own behavior.
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If I said this though:

[Q]"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a white runningback do well. There is a little hope invested in Alstott, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."[/Q]

Let's assume this was a quote about Mike Alstott of Tampa Bay and we were talking about the runningback position. Would this have been RACIST? or an observation that there are very FEW white runningbacks in the NFL therefore Alstott gets a bounce in the way the media covers him.

EXACTLY!!!
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He did say "I was criticizing the media, not McNabb"

The finger pointers were not listening. They wanted to make this something more as an exercise of power.

Too bad the PC crowd won't examine their own behavior.

When did he say this? I haven't heard it, no conservative cable news people have said that he has said this that I have heard either. If he said it during his resignation speech than I stand by my opinion of martyr-dumb.

I also think there were other issues pressing him to leave his post at ESPN. The pain killer thing for one. Definitely more going on if he just up and quit after one day after a comment that no conservative and most liberals don't care much about.
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Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?
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In a similar vein, here is a mocking take on the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People, a group with a 90-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
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Deep, do you have sources for these comments - or are these some clever generalizations?
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In 2000 ABC looked at Rush for Monday Night Football, and wisely decided to pass, or should I say punt.


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Published on Wednesday, June 7, 2000 in the Los Angeles Times

Can A Man Who Has A Problem With People Of Color Be A Color Commentator On 'Monday Night Football'?
by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall

Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh may be returning to television. He recently auditioned for a job as color commentator on ABC-TV's "Monday Night Football." The tryout followed weeks of self-promotion by the self-styled "truth detector" to the millions who listen daily to his syndicated radio show on about 600 stations.
Limbaugh's audition is stirring controversy. Sports columnist Thomas Boswell quipped that if Limbaugh joins "Monday Night Football," then baseball's game of the week broadcasters might "team up with John Rocker." Veteran sportswriter Michael Wilbon, who is black, indicated a boycott might result: "If Rush Limbaugh is put in that booth, I will NOT listen to the broadcast," he wrote in a Washington Post Internet chat session. "His views on people like me are well documented. . . . There are tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands, who feel the same way I do."

If ABC-TV hires Limbaugh, it's not clear a boycott would materialize. What is clear is that his expressed views on racial matters--from the spiteful to the sophomoric--would make him an odd color commentator. Indeed, CBS Sports dismissed Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder for ignorant racial remarks less derisive than some of Limbaugh's.

A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, Limbaugh mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when director Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren be given time off from school to see his film "Malcolm X": "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."

In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh's mocking take on the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People, a group with a 90-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-Ill.) was in the U.S. Senate--the first black woman ever elected to that body--Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect--substituting "ax" for "ask"--when discussing black leaders.

Such quotes and antics--many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting, or FAIR, for our 1995 book--offer a whiff of Limbaugh's racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in the United States "is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings" of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna's first child, a Latino, as "a gang-member type guy"--although he had no gang background.

In 1994, Limbaugh mocked St. Louis for building a rail line to East St. Louis "where nobody goes." East St. Louis is home to roughly 40,000 residents, 98% of whom are African Americans. One of those 40,000 "nobodies" is NFL linebacker Bryan Cox.

Once, in response to a caller arguing that black people need to be heard, Limbaugh responded: "They are 12% of the population. Who the hell cares?" That's not an unusual response for a talk radio host playing to an audience of "angry white males." It may not play so well among National Football League players, 70% of whom are African American.

Compared to some talk radio hosts, racism is not central to Rush Limbaugh's shtick. There has been, however, a pattern of commentary indicating his willingness to exploit prejudice against blacks to further his on-air arguments.

ABC-TV has the right to hire Limbaugh, even at the risk of alienating members of its audience. ("Monday Night Football" is the second-most watched TV show in black households.) Thrust into the world of pro football where Limbaugh himself would be something of a racial minority, is it possible that he'd rise above his history of racial bigotry and insensitivity? Not likely.

When all is said and done, the athletes are the key players on "Monday Night Football." It would be great to know how they'd feel about a color man who seems to have trouble with people of color.
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Now, those quotes from Rush are racist.
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The guy's a racist hipocrite ass and gives conservatives a bad name. But yet they still listen to him and defend him, I'll never get it...
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I don’t believe his most recent statement was the ‘whole’ problem. It was not as bad as when Al Campanis said “Blacks do not have the necessities to coach.”

I can accept the argument that some of you made that the statement was about the media. ( I may not buy it.)

I understand that some of you listen to Rush for the conservative political beliefs he presents. That is fair.

Unfortunately, I believe he has a problem with race, I hear it often when I listen to him.

I accept that some of you may not notice this.
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The guy's a racist hipocrite ass and gives conservatives a bad name. But yet they still listen to him and defend him, I'll never get it...
I don't listen to Rush and don't feel this thread is about supporting him. Given the repugnant status of being a racist, I do find that some groups toss this term about recklessly. It is a clear example of racial politics in this country.
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