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Old 12-03-2007, 06:56 PM   #16
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The fact that they have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined validates, at the least, their business model. That their loudest detractors succumb to hysteria at their mere existence validates their raison d'être.
Sure.

The same way NSync sold more records than say, Radiohead.
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:06 PM   #18
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The fact that they have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined validates, at the least, their business model. That their loudest detractors succumb to hysteria at their mere existence validates their raison d'être.
Your number of viewers argument proves nothing about the validity (or lack there of) of Fox News Channel.

See: Anitram's post for an example.
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I concur.
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Sure.

The same way NSync sold more records than say, Radiohead.
The same way some of us prefer questions at presidential debates be asked by journalists rather than say, talking snowmen.
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What the hell does that have to do with anything?
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Having difficulty understanding why this story is worth giving two tosses over one way or the other...
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The same way some of us prefer questions at presidential debates be asked by journalists rather than say, talking snowmen.
Pfft, the only reason why the snowman wasn't at the Republican debate is because he wasn't available.

Damn global warming.
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What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Yikes! Now my validity (or lack there of) is in question.
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Well, I imagine your goal here was to defend Fox News, which I guessed by your Viva Fox News Channel post.

I'm waiting for a legitimate defense.
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Well, I imagine your goal here was to defend Fox News, which I guessed by your Viva Fox News Channel post.

I'm waiting for a legitimate defense.
I'll defend Fox News if you have to defend The Center for Constitutional Rights which produced the ad.
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I didn't say Viva CCR.
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A TV station will not air something that is likely to offend its target audience. It was, most likely--and unsurprisingly, a business decision.
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The fact that they have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined validates, at the least, their business model. That their loudest detractors succumb to hysteria at their mere existence validates their raison d'être.
'Real' news can be pretty boring. Some ten minute explanation of some uninteresting election in some far off, hard to pronounce country = bo-or-or-ring. Over the top personalities screaming hysterical and deliberately provokative rubbish at you is far more entertaining. Everyone understands that - it is a very simple and successful business model that was bound to come about at some time.

My real beef though is with CNN who have allowed themselves to be dragged down by Fox. Fox is not a news channel. It's an entertainment/opinion channel. It doesn't often actually present news. It's quick on the ground to cover and fixate on a story should a major one break - complete with the all important entertaining graphics and music, often a hilarious headline/nickname for the story - but when do they just give you a rundown of what is going on around the world? Rarely. Very, very rarely. And mostly only related to the topics they love, that come pre-packaged with an angle they love.

If conservatives are okay with the most dominant and public window into their beliefs being such a moronic and ridiculous thing, fine by me. If you're okay that most people who find out that you watch and buy into Fox will probably think you are, to be frank, dumb, fine by me. I'm glad there's not an equivalent coming from the 'other' side, and that's what I hate seeing from CNN. Little bits and pieces here and there, where they're falling for the Fox route.

CNN are not the same thing as Fox and they shouldn't allow themselves to head that way. Stick to the actual news, leave the childish hysteria to Fox. Go ahead and stick to the 'boring' story about the election in the far off country while Sean Hannity is over at Fox frothing at the mouth over a mall that doesn't have a nativity scene up or some other equally ridiculous thing.
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