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Old 11-04-2004, 07:06 AM   #16
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:07 AM   #17
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U2 guy I know youre trying to prove a point that Bush 4 more years will somehow affect you and the world and it will but its not clear how yet.
unless your some kind of psychic...which i can tell your not cuz your on an emotional rampage which suggests your surprised things didnt turn out as you had hoped
I can see how a little jaunt on this forum to give us amerians a little poke and call us names (even though the majority of people on this forum probably voted for Kerry ) may be satifactory and yeah we'll be sports and take it, but you keep going on.

while this isnt a mole hill, your making it into a mountain.

You keep mentioning The United States demise- like you want it to happen- and you are entitled to feel that way..
im just curious as to why ?
Is it just cuz its fun to get on here and go off ?

make your point and then calm down man ! were gonna get through this
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:10 AM   #18
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I just smell a pissed off, condacending and enlightened European venting how the ignorant masses were tricked into voting for Bush. The simmering anti-American sentiment is released and just like anti-Semitism "it isn't wrong if they deserve it". One might call it a pathological hatred.

I ask you - who is the one that is afraid and acting irrationally here.
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All I have to say that although you might not like Ponkine's views if you travel to many countries outside of the US you will hear much of the same. The US has a SERIOUS image problem right now, rightly or wrongly...
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U2 guy I know youre trying to prove a point that Bush 4 more years will somehow affect you and the world and it will but its not clear how yet.
unless your some kind of psychic...which i can tell your not cuz your on an emotional rampage which suggests your surprised things didnt turn out as you had hoped
I can see how a little jaunt on this forum to give us amerians a little poke and call us names (even though the majority of people on this forum probably voted for Kerry ) may be satifactory and yeah we'll be sports and take it, but you keep going on.

while this isnt a mole hill, your making it into a mountain.

You keep mentioning The United States demise- like you want it to happen- and you are entitled to feel that way..
im just curious as to why ?
Is it just cuz its fun to get on here and go off ?

make your point and then calm down man ! were gonna get through this
I'm calm. And at least you got my point: this election affects not only the US but the whole world.
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lets all straighten out our shirts and take a few aspirin and put an ice bag on our heads

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Old 11-04-2004, 07:37 AM   #22
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The United States unlike some other parts of the world is a democracy. With that comes the good, the bad and the ugly and as Americans we are called to embrace it all.
Living Democracy is ongoing. We must stay awake to the fact that it will be challenged over and over again, especially by the ideas of socialism, and fundamentalism.
I love Europe, but it makes me sad that by way of economics the government is slowly becoming mother, father, etc., over there.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:52 AM   #23
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All I have to say that although you might not like Ponkine's views if you travel to many countries outside of the US you will hear much of the same. The US has a SERIOUS image problem right now, rightly or wrongly...
Sadly, that´s nothing but the truth . As I said once, I don´t hate U.S people, but I really HATE U.S foreign policy. Most of the world really hate U.S foreign policy, and the U.S "friends" countries, like UK, are afraid of U.S, and they think what could happen in case they weren´t, I mean, "You must be with us, otherwise...".The most sad fact is how so many people still believe in everything, every word, every act done by Bush, CIA, Pentagon, FBI, etc.

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All I have to say that although you might not like Ponkine's views if you travel to many countries outside of the US you will hear much of the same. The US has a SERIOUS image problem right now, rightly or wrongly...
Serious to the foreign countries. Perhaps instead of insisting that the US has it wrong, perhaps the foreign countries have it wrong. Perhaphs it is somewhere in the middle.
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Re: For those who are blind and believe in George W. Bush

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How stupid you´re people.
Name-calling is not allowed here. Please refrain from such activity and be respectful. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's another to bash people for their opinions.
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Serious to the foreign countries. Perhaps instead of insisting that the US has it wrong, perhaps the foreign countries have it wrong. Perhaphs it is somewhere in the middle.


Saddam after taking Quwait

Serious to the foreign countries. Perhaps instead of insisting that the Iraq has it wrong, perhaps the foreign countries have it wrong. Perhaphs it is somewhere in the middle.
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Bush won this election by frightening Americans and was helped in this by Osama bin Laden’s curiously timed sermon.

yes all planned by K ROVE!
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yes all planned by K ROVE!
No.

He's just smart. He knows the real issues and what matters...and Karl Rove, coming from a traditionally Republic state knows how to get the Republicans and those who MIGHT vote Republican out.

I don't believe at ALL that it was through fear or hate tactics. Not at all. That is truly, truly insulting and putting down every Republican out there which is making Democrats look more and more ugly all the time even to independents.

Karl Rove just knows how to win. They interviewed his professor here in Utah, and he is very unhappy with the outcome, he doesn't like Bush, but he says he can't deny that Rove knows how to win, always did.

People may say Bush is stupid, but I think that's stupid to say when he knows how to surround himself with VERY smart people, like Rove, and his spokeswoman, etc. So, coming from a businessperson, which I am, who has to worry about how to win people's "votes", that makes Bush very smart.
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Democrats are starting to look worse and worse in this forum with their constant insulting and doomsaying. Grow up and debate in a mature fashion.
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Rove knows how to win, always did.
He is also morally bankrupt.


Ask John McCain

Ask W's father a man most can respect,
even if they disagree with him,
why he fired Rove.

If you want to be proud of someone from Utah, Levelle is a better choice.
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