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Old 09-09-2007, 10:31 AM   #61
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Why didn't they just offer her a blanket?
They did. that was the compromise. I don't think that changes anything. She could have just as easily made a big stink becuase a flight attendant forced a blanket on her.

I am still waiting for someone to address her going to the media, NOT for attention, but because she felt "humiliated" yet she works for Hooters.

And for those of you who do not know, there are some SWA seats that face each other. Imagine if she was wearing her skirt up (again, we are seeing the "after" photo) and sitting directly across from your eleven year old son. He gets to sit there and focus on her crotch (panties or not) for the hour plus flight.

Again, we do not have the whole story. I think there needs to be SOME decorum, no?
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I am still waiting for someone to address her going to the media, NOT for attention, but because she felt "humiliated" yet she works for Hooters.
That comment, to me, really sounds a lot like the outdated, ridiculous "she is promiscuous and slutty, therefore she probably consented" myths which have mercifully been eradicated. It is exactly the same sort of reasoning that's being applied here.

Her place of employment cannot be seen as logically probative of her sense of humiliation at that time. Period.
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I don't see how this is really much different from a nice restaurant or nightclub having a dress code - no jeans, sneakers, etc. I think people perceive airplanes as a public domain or something. And we only saw the "after" photo.
Not into the dress code thing, yet another reason to avoid the club scene (along with ridiculous covers, overpriced drinks, and some HS dropout roid-aided bouncer not letting me in). But I'm guessing there's no "Dress to Impress" or somoe such on the Southwest ticket.
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They did. that was the compromise. I don't think that changes anything. She could have just as easily made a big stink becuase a flight attendant forced a blanket on her.

I am still waiting for someone to address her going to the media, NOT for attention, but because she felt "humiliated" yet she works for Hooters.

And for those of you who do not know, there are some SWA seats that face each other. Imagine if she was wearing her skirt up (again, we are seeing the "after" photo) and sitting directly across from your eleven year old son. He gets to sit there and focus on her crotch (panties or not) for the hour plus flight.

Again, we do not have the whole story. I think there needs to be SOME decorum, no?
zoney raises some good points.
we don't have all the facts.

and after listening to this girl on tv, i don't feel she is quite the victim she was initially made out to be.



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Are 3 posts on her supposed lack of undies really necessary? It's kind of disturbing, given your age, that you are fixated on this enough to make 3 comments on it. And also given your life quest to never judge people. Well, black folk, anyway. Guess that doesn't apply to women, huh, deep.
little do you know, but you did pick up on something.

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So Southwest has a publicly posted dress code for everyone to comply with?
Do they have a publicly posted code of conduct - how about drunk passengers? Like I said, we only saw the "after" pic - after she pulled down her skirt. How do we know what was visible before that? They have a right to enforce it if they feel it will offend other passengers and hurt their business. As a paying customer of an airline, I have a right to not see certain things. And I'd rather not see other passengers' crotches . I personally filed a complaint with Icelandair once for serving alcohol to a drunk passenger, who then became unruly.

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But I'm guessing there's no "Dress to Impress" or somoe such on the Southwest ticket.
Right - but we don't hear the news about random dude last Saturday night who was denied entry into a bar because he had sneakers on. He was probably bummed out too.
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So what exactly is this horrible thing that will happen when all these hypothetical children (please, will someone think of the children!!!1) catch a glimpse of someone's knickers?
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Do they have a publicly posted code of conduct - how about drunk passengers? Like I said, we only saw the "after" pic - after she pulled down her skirt. How do we know what was visible before that? They have a right to enforce it if they feel it will offend other passengers and hurt their business. As a paying customer of an airline, I have a right to not see certain things. And I'd rather not see other passengers' crotches . I personally filed a complaint with Icelandair once for serving alcohol to a drunk passenger, who then became unruly.
That's all fine and dandy but you stated that this is no different than another place having a dress code in effect. If that's your argument, then presumably, there should be a dress code that everyone is aware of, rather than it apparently being imposed at random, and completely under a flight attendant's discretion. I'm not even sure they have something as vague as "clothing needs to be in good taste with a view to modesty" in effect much less something more specific.
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It's hard to imagine that Borat in his "thong" would be allowed on an airplane .
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It's hard to imagine that Borat in his "thong" would be allowed on an airplane .
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perfect answer.

but i do think there are some liberal progressives that post here that would view this as an infringement of rights on cross dressers -cross genders people and scream discrimination, matter of fact i promise you they would.

in the end,

the airlines have a right to enforce whatever rules of decency they want, if you don't like them, take the bus.

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but i do think there are some liberal progressives that post here that would view this as an infringement of rights on cross dressers -cross genders people and scream discrimination, matter of fact i promise you they would.


if a man were wearing what she was wearing -- *exactly* what she was wearing -- he'd have been asked to get off the plane as well.

if a man is living as a woman, if someone is a pre-op transsexual, and the airline said that your clothes must match your genitalia, then, yes, that woul be discrimination.

but no one is saying that. and so your comment above was designed with no other thought in mind than to be inflammatory.

so, congratulations.
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As a paying customer of an airline, I have a right to not see certain things. And I'd rather not see other passengers' crotches . I personally filed a complaint with Icelandair once for serving alcohol to a drunk passenger, who then became unruly.
You do? You have a right to not see certain things? Like what? Are you going to abandon old people, fat people, or black people because you don't want to see them?

You going to ban lycra? You can see crotches in lycra.

You going to allow Muslim men to force women to cover up everything, so they are comfortable on a plane? We can offer airline Burkas...

Unless she was actually exposing something, then no, you have no right "to not see certain things".

Your drunk analogy is apples and oranges.
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I am still waiting for someone to address her going to the media, NOT for attention, but because she felt "humiliated" yet she works for Hooters.



What does working at Hooters have to do with it?
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So what exactly is this horrible thing that will happen when all these hypothetical children (please, will someone think of the children!!!1) catch a glimpse of someone's knickers?
In Europe, nothing.

In America, the children will be scarred for life (due to the parents' over-reactions).
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