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Old 09-08-2007, 11:50 AM   #31
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Well if it happens every day I would think people would complain. I have never seen it happen on any flight or heard about it happening to anyone I know. I don't think she was seeking publicity, I think she was angry about it and I think she had a right to be. I also think perhaps it caused her stress, especially since she was going to a doctor's appointment. I don't know what that was about and that's her private business, but given the situation it must have been very difficult and embarrassing for her.
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She was still allowed to fly.
Others that have been kicked off flights include: people wearing anti-Bush t-shirts, imams, a coughing girl, a smelly man, and others. I've personally witnessed two men kicked off my flight for being overly rude to a gate agent.
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maybe they should have just given her a pair of panties.
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I can't help wondering: in the second picture, here: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638463/
it looks like the "waistband" of her skirt is very, very low on her "hips." If that's where the skirt began, maybe she had the bottom of the tank top pulled up, under the shrug, with her midriff bare all the way below her belly button, almost to the fur line? I could see where *that* might earn a "get-off-of-my-plane" card!
I am not saying that the airline is right, BUT, I think MsPurrl is the first to make what to me is a pretty obvious point. The news articles I have seen have only told the story from the 23 year-olds' prespective - not the airline (and good on the airline for NOT adding to this story). When she was in the airport, was her skirt pulled down that far? Was her shirt and "sweater" (because, as far as I am concerned, that IS NOT a "sweater") in that exact position - or was it truly revealing entirely too much?

Indeed...the 70s STEWARDESS outfits were outrageous. Sexists. Even the ads for airlines of the time (pictures of these STEWARDESSES in these outifts with taglines like "Fly Me") were offensive. But, that was the seventies. We do not see those today (unless you are flying Hooter's Airlines).

Again, I am not going to defend the flight attendant or the airline, but it is possible that we are not getting the whole story.
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A question for those with young girls...would you feel comfortable on a flight with the flight attendants dressed this way? Do you think this sends an appropriate message?

HOW is it different from this?



I truly believe if a man was dressed in a short skirt like that, he would have been asked to put some sort of clothing on too.

Finally, she said she was "humiliated." She works for Hooters! How can you work for Hooters and feel humiliated dressed like that?

This is a case of "I have finally figured out how to get some good exposure for myself."
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Again, I am not going to defend the flight attendant or the airline, but it is possible that we are not getting the whole story.
I wonder if there were any complaints.

If someone complained that she had no underpants on?
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #37
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Basically this story is yet another example of the New Puritanism and the PC thought police in action.
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Again, I am not going to defend the flight attendant or the airline, but it is possible that we are not getting the whole story.
Looking at the outfit in the second picture, I think you and MsPurrl may be right. We just don't know exactly how she was wearing it that day. Had she been wearing it differently and in a more revealing way, I may have just rolled my eyes and forgot about it but some people could have been offended.

I'm a little sick of seeing buttcrack on the girls who make my coffee at my favorite local espresso house who wear their jeans too low (and the wrong size), their tank tops too short, and their flabby bellies and buttcracks hanging out, and I've often thought it was inappropriate attire for work or for anything except for being out at night with your friends. I only posted the 70s picture because it was amusing and ironic but of course you're right, this isn't the 70s anymore (thank God).
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A question for those with young girls...would you feel comfortable on a flight with the flight attendants dressed this way? Do you think this sends an appropriate message?

HOW is it different from this?

How is it different?

She isn't working for the airline -- that's how it's different.

Honestly, once she's in her damned seat no one's really going to see her anyway, so I don't get the fuss. Even if someone does think she's dressed inappropriately all that person has to do is look somewhere else (which shouldn't be hard on an airplane).
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How is it different?

She isn't working for the airline -- that's how it's different.

Honestly, once she's in her damned seat no one's really going to see her anyway, so I don't get the fuss. Even if someone does think she's dressed inappropriately all that person has to do is look somewhere else (which shouldn't be hard on an airplane).
Yes.

I still argue that even if, let's say that when she sat down basically nothing was left for the imagination--give her a freaking blanket and be done with it!

Usually, I'm the first to say there's probably another side to the story that we're not hearing, but in this case I can't imagine what that other side would be. . .

Are there "fine print" restrictions on how you dress when you fly? I can totally see the no shirt, no shoes, no service rule applying but I struggle to see how a skimpy outfit is cause for attempted denial of service.

And as for the argument that she "got the attention she was seeking" are we actually suggested that she threw on her sleaziest outfit in the hopes of creating a scene so she could be on national television? Come on.
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Basically this story is yet another example of the New Puritanism and the PC thought police in action.
Puritanism and PC? Do those really even go along with each other?
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i can't believe she is escorted out and asked to change (even though she was let back on the plane) and NOBODY does a DAMN THING when those little monsters are kicking at my seat from behind and screaming their heads off.
I totally agree!!!
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Puritanism and PC? Do those really even go along with each other?
Yes, the anti-pornography movement could be viewed in such a manner. When groups take a stand against sexism and objectification (not an unreasonable position) by demanding censorship outright regardless of the consensuality of involved parties they are brushing up alongside the views and actions of religious conservatives.

There is generally a convergence between different groups with a disdain for freedoms even if they arrive at that point for entirely different reasons.

In this instance though airlines should be allowed to maintain dress codes even if they are arbitrary and unfair; at least she gets some airtime out of it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:10 PM   #44
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I wonder if there were any complaints.

If someone complained that she had no underpants on?
Are 3 posts on her supposed lack of undies really necessary? It's kind of disturbing, given your age, that you are fixated on this enough to make 3 comments on it. And also given your life quest to never judge people. Well, black folk, anyway. Guess that doesn't apply to women, huh, deep.
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We expect our professionals to dress a certain way. Obviously her dressing this way and the flight attendant dressing this way are two things which bear no similarity to one another in the comparison context we are discussing.

It is certainly common sense to dress yourself appropriately when going to church or to court. But people wear all sorts of things on flights, especially those heading to tropical places. I think they look like morons and I enjoy watching them shiver on the flight where the temperature is below that which can sustain human life (no wonder we need those disgusting polyester blankets), but I wouldn't insist on them changing their clothes.
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