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Old 05-11-2005, 11:19 AM   #1
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Felons vote Democratic, national study says

Felons vote Democratic, national study says

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/l...-4452879c.html

KENNETH P. VOGEL; The News Tribune
Originally published: May 10th, 2005 12:01 AM


If disenfranchised felons had been allowed to vote, they would have swung the 2000 presidential race to Al Gore, according to a national study Republicans are touting in their fight to overturn Christine Gregoire’s victory in last fall’s governor’s race.
The study posits that since racial minorities and the poor – groups that tend to vote for Democrats– make up a disproportionate number of felons, a hypothetical felon voting bloc would be so overwhelmingly Democratic it could swing national and statewide elections.

On average, 74 percent of felons would have voted Democratic in presidential and U.S. Senate elections dating back to 1972, according to the study’s analysis of demographic and voting data.

Of Democratic presidential candidates, the study predicts that Bill Clinton’s successful 1996 re-election campaign would have gotten the highest percentage of felon votes, at 85.4 percent. Jimmy Carter’s failed 1980 re-election would have gotten the lowest, at 66.5 percent.

A state GOP-funded study by Jonathan Katz, a political science professor at the California Institute of Technology, estimates that Gregoire received 66.3 percent of the illegal felon votes.

And a study by Tony Gill, an associate political science professor at the University of Washington, estimates that Gregoire received 60.1 percent of felon votes in King County, Gregoire’s base and home to by far the largest number of illegal felon votes the GOP says were cast.

Compared with the national study, published in 2002 in the American Sociological Review, Gill writes that his study’s estimate “is too conservative, giving Ms. Gregoire the benefit of the doubt. In other words, the rate at which felons vote for a Democratic candidate is likely to be higher than the estimates provided by the precinct-level of analysis here.”

Katz did not return a phone call.

But Nick Handy, elections chief for the secretary of state’s office, the primary defendant in the case, said the national study shouldn’t be admissible.

“It strikes me that generalized testimony about how felons probably would have voted is getting pretty remote,” he said.

Todd Donovan, a political science professor at Western Washington University who’s not involved in the case, said the national study is based too narrowly on race and is not applicable in Washington, where racial minorities make up a lower percentage of the felon population than in other states.

The study’s “hypothetical felon doesn’t really exist in most places in Washington. We just don’t fit that. We’re not in Georgia,” Donovan said.
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Does that take white collar felons into account? Perhaps they might be mostly Republican
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What a load of crap!!!

"would have voted"?
back to 1972?

GOP funded?

Can we say PROPAGANDA
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But let's not forget, felons can't vote, unless they are in Florida and they register Republican...
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so the Republican way of thinking after reading this would be, "Felons vote Democratic? Oh, that must mean all Democrats are felons!"
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so the Republican way of thinking after reading this would be, "Felons vote Democratic? Oh, that must mean all Democrats are felons!"
Not exactly, mate.

But the John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, and Hillary Clinton way of thinking is "let's get the felon vote!"

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Should convicted murderers be allowed to vote? If the federal Count Every Vote Act of 2005 passes, they will be. The bill --sponsored by Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Barbara Mikulski and others --would mandate felon voting across the country, regardless of state law.
Yep...
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Felons voting Democratic? Unless they live in Florida?
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It doesn't surprise me a whole lot. The Democrats are getting more and more desperate for power, any way they can get it.
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Those articles are all shit as well.

It's backwards logic.

Basically they are saying the majority of felons are this race, this socio-economic background, and the average age is this. Then from this they say these people vote democratic according to our numbers. But the problem is they don't know and there is no way to predict how many would vote or even how, because the one thing that separates them from the rest of their demographic is THEY ARE FELONS. So obviously they have something additional in their background that the rest of their matching demographic didn't.
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It doesn't surprise me a whole lot. The Democrats are getting more and more desperate for power, any way they can get it.
Right like pandering to those who want to redefine science, intervene in our private lives, and preach politics from the pulpit isn't an act of desperation.

Of course it worked for Republicans, but there was a day when Republicans would have been sick to their stomachs if someone suggested that.
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hey, if the people want democrats in office, let them vote democratic.
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I'm waiting for the "People with no morals vote Democratic" headline......
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