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Old 01-19-2006, 09:34 PM   #16
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I saw a few calculations, it would be mathematically impossible for an echelon system to function over all the internet, and thats ignoring the legal implications.
ah ok, I figured it was an exaggerated "Big Brother is protecting us" story.

Parents have a right to want to protect their teenage sons from it to some extent though for many of the same reasons they'd want them to stay away from alcohol or drugs or whatever...although any efforts to keep kids away from those two things are a joke anyway.
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alright I wrote a gigantic research paper on censorship

after looking at everything, if parents want to stop their children from watching porn, they have the technology to do it, and they are just being lazy by making the gov't do it for them
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Parents monitoring kids so that they're not exposed to porn is only ONE side though. At the same time, parents should be open with kids about sexuality so that when the kids ARE exposed to porn (b/c no matter how many filters you have or how little computer time you allow kids, they will at some point be exposed to porn), kids know how to react.
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what scares me is that google has a database of pretty much whatever thoughts you have. i've used google to look up some pretty weird shit, out of curiosity, sometimes a morbid curiosity, and it seems a little bit of a dicey proposition for a government to, say, take all the terms i've searched on google and then try to connect the dots.

literally, google is reading your thoughts. and if the government, or perhaps worse, a corporation that's seeking to better market to you and at you, has access to such a database, just think of the consequences -- and, yes, this does tie into the patriot act.
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Yes thats true, thats why you should always spoof your IP adress when using the search engine.
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I can just see someone getting investigated by the government because they were using Google to do research for a paper on human sexuality for a college course or something like that.
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Parents monitoring kids so that they're not exposed to porn is only ONE side though. At the same time, parents should be open with kids about sexuality so that when the kids ARE exposed to porn (b/c no matter how many filters you have or how little computer time you allow kids, they will at some point be exposed to porn), kids know how to react.
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what scares me is that google has a database of pretty much whatever thoughts you have. i've used google to look up some pretty weird shit, out of curiosity, sometimes a morbid curiosity, and it seems a little bit of a dicey proposition for a government to, say, take all the terms i've searched on google and then try to connect the dots.

literally, google is reading your thoughts. and if the government, or perhaps worse, a corporation that's seeking to better market to you and at you, has access to such a database, just think of the consequences -- and, yes, this does tie into the patriot act.


Let's see: based on my recent searches, I guess I could be labeled an anarchist, a socialist, a pornographer, a right wing conservative, a democrat , a Muslim, a hypochondriac, avid Christian, avid anti-Christian, straight, gay,
necromancer, witch, pro defense, pro prosecution, Nascar (only once, I swear it and it was for somebody else), a fan of the Mamas and the Papas (true) a reader of various and sundry (and sometimes bizarre) literature and someone who repeatedly googles the Constitution.

Irvine, they're not going to know what to make of us. We're the worst kind of subversive.
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whew... thank god i use yahoo to look for porn.
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if parents want to stop their children from watching porn, they have the technology to do it, and they are just being lazy by making the gov't do it for them
not true - you get porn sites for googling scooby doo.....
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whew... thank god i use yahoo to look for porn.


note to self ...
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Yes thats true, thats why you should always spoof your IP adress when using the search engine.


explain how.
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Interesting side note - the two guys who started Google both worked for the National Security Agency. Yeah - the NSA - the current bad boys of spy scandal, warrent less monitoring on behalf of Dubya.
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They tried to put all porn into a .xxx domain so they could have it all in the one spot and hopefully make it easier to manage. The US didn't like the idea and blocked it from happening. You will never stop all the porn from leaking out but putting most of it in a virtual red-light district would certainly help.


From wired.com

"Around 300 top-level domains are running on the net. But when ICANN decided to carve out a new one for adult content, a Christian group called the Family Research Council saw red, predicting the move would double the amount of smut available online, and, in the words of council attorney Patrick Trueman, "the porn industry would become twice the menace it is today."

When conservative groups start using the word "menace," look out. Prompted by a flood of mail from the Republican base, Michael Gallagher, assistant secretary at the U.S. Commerce Department, drafted a letter to ICANN chairman Vint Cerf asking for the new domain to be delayed. It was, and in that moment any illusion that the internet's critical domain-name system was immune from U.S. political whims evaporated.

Gallagher's meddling in what was supposed to be a technical decision by an impartial body added fuel to an international diplomatic rebellion against the United States' unique role in internet stewardship, and an ill-conceived proposal to put the net under multilateral control was narrowly curbed on the eve of a U.N. summit in November. But it's a small price to pay to keep smut peddlers in their place -- or, really, out of their place. In any case, the Family Research Council has moved onto other menaces, like gay marriage and the threatening practice of retailers saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas.""


According to the Justice Department, Yahoo, MSN, and AOl have already complied so Headache, they know about your rubber fetish.
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It's funny to think of what I would be labelled based on Google searches. When I don't know how to spell a word, I type it in Google and usually it will say "Do you mean ----- ?". Or, if I read a word and don't know what it means, I type "definition:-------". I also use Google for Celcius/Fahrenheit conversions and basic calculations. I'm rarely ever searching for actual sources of information.
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