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Old 08-26-2005, 10:10 AM   #16
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By the way a gay couple joined our church a couple weeks ago. One of them is a hairstylist, interior decorator, AND flower arranger! He's wonderful though
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Old 08-26-2005, 10:11 AM   #17
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If the religious right want to implement biblical law, let them remember the injunctions against divorce in the Bible. Jesus specifically said that the old law was too liberal as regards divorce yet he said absolutely nothing specific about gay rights, good bad or indifferent.

So yes the congressman is at least more consistent in his Biblical intepretations than some on the religious right.

But I don't think it's going to wash in the Bush voting states, which have higher divorce rates than the Democrat voting ones.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:49 PM   #18
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irvine. You always say what I want to say so well!
I'll second that . to what BonosSaint said, too.

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Old 08-26-2005, 01:53 PM   #19
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If they want to protect marriage
they should go after divorce.


Divorce is the only threat to marriage.
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:47 PM   #20
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Bullshit. In your haste to lash out at anyone who is capable of stripping you of your liberties, you make the erronous decision to include everyone in this. Stop it, melon. You're becoming as blind as those very conservatives you are truly fighting. As tongue in cheek as you might be, you are becoming as bigoted as them by continually saying it, so congrats, I guess. You seem to have wanted this.
Forgive my rather ironic approach to writing. If I had just wrote it in usual "liberal social outrage," no one would have probably read this. Do you think I seriously want this?

I just want all those apathetic people out there (and I'm not referring to anyone specificially, but, poll wise, that's most of America) to realize that the wrath of the Christian Taliban extends beyond some nameless "Other" and to realize that it can affect them too.

So let's bring on the amendment!

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Old 08-26-2005, 04:48 PM   #21
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But I don't think it's going to wash in the Bush voting states, which have higher divorce rates than the Democrat voting ones.
Bingo! The highest divorce rates in America are in the Bible Belt.

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You want to stop and consider how many of those "miserable heteros stuck in loveless marriages" are ardent supporters of gay rights, including the right of gay people to marry?
You mean less than 40% of voters? I think only Oregon's "Defense of Marriage" amendment didn't break the 60% mark.

Maybe this will help the "apathetic majority" to wake up out of their stupor. Or, if not, at least I'll get a chuckle out of an amendment that doesn't affect me and my rights, for once.

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Isn't this scaring the absolute shit out of anyone but me?
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Isn't this scaring the absolute shit out of anyone but me?
No.

ETA: I meant to say yes, not no. WTF, I obviously need sleep, lol.

Frankly, I think we need to nip these things in the bud right now when they're starting to gather momentum and not in a hundred years when these folks have gotten their way.
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Let's make the marriage contract something reasonable, like 5 years.

At the 5-year point each party could agree to a 5-year renewal.
A five year option is about all anyone should have to commit to.

Most car leases are 4-5 years max.
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I dunno if 5 years is good. I mean, one of my very best friend's husband started cheating on her 6 months after they were married...

also, what about in the case of domestic violence. Nobody should have to be smacked around or verbally or mentally abused for 5 years before they can get out.
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Marriage and Divorce should be as quick, inexpensive and easy as possible.
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Old 08-26-2005, 07:42 PM   #28
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meh lets just do away with marriage. If you love somebody and want to share your life with them go for it!

i believe insurance and all the benefits that go with marriage should be put into place for domestic partners....and hell for that matter if I want to put my elderly parents or a sibling or any person of my choosing on my insurance for a reasonable fee so freaking be it!!! heh
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No, you can keep marriage and also have legal status for domestic partners at the same time.
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Old 08-26-2005, 07:46 PM   #30
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true, very true. however, my statement about being able to decide who I want covered by my insurance still stands. I'd love to be able to put my parents on my plan.
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