February 5, 2008 Super Tuesday
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martha
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Axver said:
You'd be fucked.
Dalton
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Irvine511 said:
special underpants?
Lila64
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No spoken words said:
I completely understand where you are coming from. Unfortunately, leaving the country is not an option for me. We have some friends who I've spoke about before, that moved to Australia. They follow U.S. politics from afar now, but I'm sure politics has a bit of influence on them leaving. And then my accountant and his family moved to New Zealand last year and is now living it up.
I'll slink back to home base and find you.
Irvine511
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Dalton said:
i'm giggling more now.
i think we should call him Captain Special Underpants.
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Axver said:
That's my problem exactly.
Am agnostic, with a secular Jewish background, as well as the former.
This just often does not feel like the right country for me. I think living in NYC/LA all my life helped, but I'm in the Midwest now, and, I wonder, a lot, if maybe I need to admit that it's time for me to live somewhere that is more representative of how I think when it comes to government and religion, or, government devoid of religious overtones.
Irvine511
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Axver said:
this is considered "red meat" stuff for the Republican base. they love all this national greatness myth making.
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Axver said:
Bush had never been to Europe prior to running for President. That tidbit blew me away as he made his bid for the Republican nod.
I'm starting to get pissed off.
martha
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Someone else is gonna have to add the hair.
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Axver said:
It's bad, Axver. It's bad.
There are some Republicans that are legit. I emphasize some.
I don't really have the option of moving yet, being still in high school and looking into colleges. I don't know where I'd go, though.
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anitram said:
Come and join us!
Martina, it's crossed my mind a lot the past 3 years.
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yolland said:
Minnesota can be added for Obama as well.
phanan
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Romney sounded like he was battling a cold.
Irvine511
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god, Mitt's crazy national greatness stuff is EMBARRASSING.
"greatest" this and "greatest" that.
i feel as if all non-Americans need an American in the room to explain this to them, as you would explain away the crazy relatives when you bring your new boy/girlfriend to the barbecue.
"greatest" this and "greatest" that.
i feel as if all non-Americans need an American in the room to explain this to them, as you would explain away the crazy relatives when you bring your new boy/girlfriend to the barbecue.
No spoken words said:
Well, we would love to have you.
I have lived in 4 different countries. In that sense I feel very little patriotism of any sort. I respect and value the country I live in, but all of this "rah rah we are the best nation on the PLANET" stuff is really beyond my scope of understanding so I don't even try.
I do like where I am now. I feel like I can blend in and belong.
No spoken words said:
Come to Melbourne. Not only do we have the agnostic/secular stuff covered nicely, but we've got the Jewish side of things too! Melbourne apparently has the highest proportion of Holocaust survivors anywhere in the world outside of Israel.
And, well, any politician who invokes religion is generally seen here as being a bit of a loony and out of line. It will lose rather than gain votes. People want politicians making decisions for everyone, not for one exclusive religious community.
BoMac
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Bush had never been to Europe prior to running for President. That tidbit blew me away as he made his bid for the Republican nod.
I'm starting to get pissed off.
Bush had never been anywhere but Mexico prior to becoming President.
Dalton
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Religious overtones are fine. I know MANY more religious people that are reasonable and wise than I do the type of wacky fundamentalists that the media gives a platform to.
BoMac
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^ I believe he also had a C average at Yale.
Hey, where's Infinitum to provide his spin, his alternate reality where Ron Paul is actually having an awesome Super Tuesday and is going to be the Republican candidate? I think I'd prefer that to "Huckabee's actually winning states".
Irvine511
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Axver said:
now, don't be like people who make one trip to some country and use it to confirm all of their prejudices. and don't be guilty yourself of judging 300m people on the basis of a few.
it's a great big place. politics is crazy. keep an open mind, and don't judge too harshly, seek to understand where things come from and why they happen.
phanan
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Looks like in some states that aren't officially called for yet, Clinton is leading in Arizona and Missouri while Obama might take Colorado and Idaho. Early numbers in Utah are even.
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Axver said:
I'll bet as CNN is calling states based on exit polls, he's "calling" them as wins for Paul because Ron Paul won every debate because Ron Paul has a good position on Iraq.
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anitram said:
Well, we would love to have you.
I have lived in 4 different countries. In that sense I feel very little patriotism of any sort. I respect and value the country I live in, but all of this "rah rah we are the best nation on the PLANET" stuff is really beyond my scope of understanding so I don't even try.
I do like where I am now. I feel like I can blend in and belong.
I do love my country, or did. But, I'm not big on jingoism at all. If I take time to brag, it's about my sister getting her Doctorate, or my parents celebrating a 40th anniversary, not about how fucking awesome the USA is. Sigh.
When I have traveled abroad, I have felt more at home than when I visit regions like the South. Maybe that's on me, but, maybe it's just a sad truth.
BonoManiac said:
But to be fair to him, isn't the statistic something like 80% of Americans don't own a passport?
Which I think is in a sense understandable given the size of the country and how much there is to see within the US itself. Of course, Canada is bigger and Australia is not small and we are infinitely better travelled. I don't know a single person here who has never left the country.
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Current tally:
Clinton--Oklahoma, Tennessee*, Arkansas, New York*, New Jersey, Massachusetts*
Obama--Illinois*, Georgia*, Delaware, Alabama, North Dakota, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota*
McCain--Delaware, New Jersey**, Connecticut, Illinois**, New York**, Oklahoma, Arizona**
Romney--Massachusetts, Utah**
Huckabee--West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama
(* = rather large delegate count + significant-looking victory margin)
(** = winner-take-all state with rather large delegate count, OR significant-looking victory margin in non-winner-take-all state with lots of delegates)
Clinton--Oklahoma, Tennessee*, Arkansas, New York*, New Jersey, Massachusetts*
Obama--Illinois*, Georgia*, Delaware, Alabama, North Dakota, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota*
McCain--Delaware, New Jersey**, Connecticut, Illinois**, New York**, Oklahoma, Arizona**
Romney--Massachusetts, Utah**
Huckabee--West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama
(* = rather large delegate count + significant-looking victory margin)
(** = winner-take-all state with rather large delegate count, OR significant-looking victory margin in non-winner-take-all state with lots of delegates)
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